BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 The one word I have not seen on this thread is "innocence"........what price your nippers innocence and how long do you want to try and make it last? To say "well its no worse than they see outside" is a complete and utter bollocks of an excuse.........home should be your childs safe place, away from the ugliness of the world.........no matter what shit happens in the day they should come home and its just innocent and simple and nice Weather they be 10 or 15 or 18 or even 25......home with your parent or parents should be the place where nothing can get at you from outside that bubble People are free to bring up their kids how they see fit, no skin off my nose but if your asking then I am telling you that to let them get too tied up in that type of shite is bad never mind letting them watch things that are not appropriate to their age...........it is a pile of wank Not much you can add to that really Wilf...bang on the money.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 If any parent lets there 12 yo watch or play 18 rated films/games then they need to take a look at themselves !!is that right ............may I ask what do you do for a living ...........?Just out of interest mate whats his job got to with things? Aye, can't see the relevance myself.. Some of the worst parents I know are the well off ones who spoil their kids and just chuck them whatever they want in the same way you throw a dog a bone to keep them quiet and out of their hair.. Being a responsible parent has got f**k all to do with what job or social status you might have.. johhny reply was an insult to me,.............. lets look at it this way,.................grown men who play on there x box all day ,............need too look at them selfs before judgeing others....?...... I don't want any arguments ..................but that was personal in sult to me ......... i was just getting as personal with johny as he was too me........? ......i think that was fair...... i aint getting slated by some one ,........who don't agree with me?..........any especially don't know me.........? im throwing my toys out the pram now too many perfect parents out there ......... i bet if there was a survey on how many parents let there kids watch / play videos over there age , you would be shocked.........truth is every one on the internet is perfect when it comes too opionions ,..........but in reality they not so perfect........... do this thread a favour ,.either lock it or eat it or ........ I insulted you? You made a statement saying that you let your 12 year old watch 18 rated films and then try to character assassinate me lol. Being a good parent as nothing to do with what you do for a living, my kids get plenty of stimulation as anybody who knows me will testify too. I share John's views on this.....if it isn't age appropriate my lot ain't getting to watch/read/use it/take part/drink it.... I have 5 kids....ages ranging from and including 21, 19, 15, 3 and 12 months... When Rebekah was 14,15,16 etc and going to her friend's houses for birthday parties/DVD nights/Xmas parties and what not it was a f*****g nightmare...she wasn't allowed to drink alcohol...point blank no way...but out of the 6/8 close mates she had all of their parents bought them drink for these parties and bought them drink to take to these parties and were all aiding and abetting pished kids every weekend....picking them up from folks houses covered in spew and what not....that shit wasn't an option for Rebekah and all her mates and parents knew this....I even had one witless c**t phone me one Saturday night to ask why Rebekah wasn't allowed to drink and would it be okay if she had a bottle of cider....well she ain't allowed to drink because I said so and no it ain't okay if she has a bottle of cider....what's more "as far as I am concerned you - because of the fact my 15-year-old daughter is in your house - are directly responsible for my daughter's welfare and if you can't deal with that I will come and pick her up now...." Boys were and are the same....and I have never had any complaints...all decent human beings and good people.... Tell you what though this way of thinking is in the minority. I have no doubt about it. Vast majority of parents have absolved themselves of all and any responsibility for their kids, have failed to teach them basic manners and as far as respect goes...well respect has been cast to the wind as far as I am concerned..... I think theres a flip side to that........obviously its worked for you and thats great but you could always get a child whos a bit rebellious and go the other way. I dont have kids but im a firm believer in the 'have a few tins with mates' in the house at 15/16...rather that than have them in some local park wi a bottle of vodka getting hammered. I'd be surprised if they never had a cheeky drink anyway.... Lab, totally appreciate that...and you're right...kids can and will rebel and push boundaries...mine all got their own minds and we have had some 'moments' but on the whole Jacqui and me have always been able to talk to them and tell and explain the reasons behind any off limits stuff... I think it's about engaging with them and communicating with them.... You might have all that coming to you bud.... I kind of do at the minute mate. My girl has a little boy coming up for 4....been an 'experience' shall we say over the last year.....he certainly knows how to wind me up... I'm alot stricter than her.... I'm not sure how i would/will be if i had a child of my own.....will i be proper strict or will i want to be the cool Dad...time will tell. I know for a fact if i do buy a console and i get regularly beaten at games then it will be going in the bin.... Sure you can be both mate cool and able to let them know what's what and what lines can't be crossed...I'm now what folk would class as an older dad....48 with a 12 month old son and a 3 year old daughter....the older ones have always thought I was kinda cool and fun to be around and I hope the young ones will think the same.... I don't let mine beat me at nothing.....no way..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 To the above.. You've got to find a balance between being a mate and being an authority figure IMO.. One of my mates had absolutely f**k all growing up and said when he had kids, they'd have whatever they wanted so they'd never know what it was like to be piss poor and not be able to afford the things that he could never have as a kid.. Fast forward and he's got three boys, and they have the best of the best, and lots of it.. Those three boys want for nothing, yet they treat him like shit and don't listen to a word he says.. Your kids are not your best mates, they need a firm yet gentle hand to guide them and correct them when they start to go wrong. I always say you don't own your kids, they are free individuals who will ultimately grow up into who they want to be. All we can do is try our best to influence the direction they go in.. That's my take on it anyway.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,424 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 The one word I have not seen on this thread is "innocence"........what price your nippers innocence and how long do you want to try and make it last? To say "well its no worse than they see outside" is a complete and utter bollocks of an excuse.........home should be your childs safe place, away from the ugliness of the world.........no matter what shit happens in the day they should come home and its just innocent and simple and nice Weather they be 10 or 15 or 18 or even 25......home with your parent or parents should be the place where nothing can get at you from outside that bubble People are free to bring up their kids how they see fit, no skin off my nose but if your asking then I am telling you that to let them get too tied up in that type of shite is bad never mind letting them watch things that are not appropriate to their age...........it is a pile of wank would you let your child use the internet for home work.............its only a couple of clicks for a child that could see something bad ....... mine use the internet for research for homework,..........the oldest is on face book on his phone and can access the internet from this pc, his phone and his console.........and I cant supervise him all the time,..............but I trust him ,........hes capable of a lot of things on I.T as its a subject he does at school.......... what era you live in......?lol its each to there own ,.........when is a child ready to watch a hunt......?...........a lot say start them young ......a lot say they shouldn't be watching that...??....... whats the difference,.........im done with arguing today,..but a debate is fine........... being addicted to thl...........lol My girls use the net for homework, they wouldn't dream of looking for bad stuff on the net because they are innocent about such things.......it just does not figure in their thought process. I live in an era of parents make the rules and boundrys and the kids abide by those rules and boundrys and god help them if they step out of line. If they are unclear about the right course of action then they come and talk to me or mum.......about absolutely anything. And when I say something then that's the law, no arguments........sure they winge and complain but they know where they stand Believe it or not, kids like boundrys.....they thrive in such conditions If you don't want your boy to have the game then tell him "No"........simple 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted September 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 The one word I have not seen on this thread is "innocence"........what price your nippers innocence and how long do you want to try and make it last? To say "well its no worse than they see outside" is a complete and utter bollocks of an excuse.........home should be your childs safe place, away from the ugliness of the world.........no matter what shit happens in the day they should come home and its just innocent and simple and nice Weather they be 10 or 15 or 18 or even 25......home with your parent or parents should be the place where nothing can get at you from outside that bubble People are free to bring up their kids how they see fit, no skin off my nose but if your asking then I am telling you that to let them get too tied up in that type of shite is bad never mind letting them watch things that are not appropriate to their age...........it is a pile of wank would you let your child use the internet for home work.............its only a couple of clicks for a child that could see something bad ....... mine use the internet for research for homework,..........the oldest is on face book on his phone and can access the internet from this pc, his phone and his console.........and I cant supervise him all the time,..............but I trust him ,........hes capable of a lot of things on I.T as its a subject he does at school.......... what era you live in......?lol its each to there own ,.........when is a child ready to watch a hunt......?...........a lot say start them young ......a lot say they shouldn't be watching that...??....... whats the difference,.........im done with arguing today,..but a debate is fine........... being addicted to thl...........lol My girls use the net for homework, they wouldn't dream of looking for bad stuff on the net because they are innocent about such things.......it just does not figure in their thought process. I live in an era of parents make the rules and boundrys and the kids abide by those rules and boundrys and god help them if they step out of line. If they are unclear about the right course of action then they come and talk to me or mum.......about absolutely anything. And when I say something then that's the law, no arguments........sure they winge and complain but they know where they stand Believe it or not, kids like boundrys.....they thrive in such conditions If you don't want your boy to have the game then tell him "No"........simple I ve heard girls are worst than boys,.............that's one thing I will never know,...............but am greatful that my boys will hopefully bring back girls......... and I would be more worried about a couple of girls in this world than I would boys...........that's not judgeing anybody or anything ,...........but I would shite meself if a daughter of mine had a date or something when she was in her teens,...............just cant trust any fooking boys these days,.........I mean look at lab........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,424 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 I wont trust the boys.......I don't have to, I trust my girls Different set of circumstances for my boys, they will have different things to watch out for and when that time comes hopefully I will have educated them enough to deal with that.....if not, they can ask and I will put them right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Some folk have got old and forgot what teenagers get up too. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,566 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Some folk have got old and forgot what teenagers get up too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted September 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 as long as they use protection ............ cant see the problem , obviously when there legal.............let them enjoy and explore mother natures ways,..........after all its only natural.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 The one word I have not seen on this thread is "innocence"........what price your nippers innocence and how long do you want to try and make it last? To say "well its no worse than they see outside" is a complete and utter bollocks of an excuse.........home should be your childs safe place, away from the ugliness of the world.........no matter what shit happens in the day they should come home and its just innocent and simple and nice Weather they be 10 or 15 or 18 or even 25......home with your parent or parents should be the place where nothing can get at you from outside that bubble People are free to bring up their kids how they see fit, no skin off my nose but if your asking then I am telling you that to let them get too tied up in that type of shite is bad never mind letting them watch things that are not appropriate to their age...........it is a pile of wank would you let your child use the internet for home work.............its only a couple of clicks for a child that could see something bad .......mine use the internet for research for homework,..........the oldest is on face book on his phone and can access the internet from this pc, his phone and his console.........and I cant supervise him all the time,..............but I trust him ,........hes capable of a lot of things on I.T as its a subject he does at school.......... what era you live in......?lol its each to there own ,.........when is a child ready to watch a hunt......?...........a lot say start them young ......a lot say they shouldn't be watching that...??....... whats the difference,.........im done with arguing today,..but a debate is fine........... being addicted to thl...........lol My girls use the net for homework, they wouldn't dream of looking for bad stuff on the net because they are innocent about such things.......it just does not figure in their thought process. I live in an era of parents make the rules and boundrys and the kids abide by those rules and boundrys and god help them if they step out of line. If they are unclear about the right course of action then they come and talk to me or mum.......about absolutely anything. And when I say something then that's the law, no arguments........sure they winge and complain but they know where they stand Believe it or not, kids like boundrys.....they thrive in such conditions If you don't want your boy to have the game then tell him "No"........simple I ve heard girls are worst than boys,.............that's one thing I will never know,...............but am greatful that my boys will hopefully bring back girls.........and I would be more worried about a couple of girls in this world than I would boys...........that's not judgeing anybody or anything ,...........but I would shite meself if a daughter of mine had a date or something when she was in her teens,...............just cant trust any fooking boys these days,.........I mean look at lab........ You could trust me 100% with your life...:-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STRANGER 948 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 The one word I have not seen on this thread is "innocence"........what price your nippers innocence and how long do you want to try and make it last? To say "well its no worse than they see outside" is a complete and utter bollocks of an excuse.........home should be your childs safe place, away from the ugliness of the world.........no matter what shit happens in the day they should come home and its just innocent and simple and nice Weather they be 10 or 15 or 18 or even 25......home with your parent or parents should be the place where nothing can get at you from outside that bubble People are free to bring up their kids how they see fit, no skin off my nose but if your asking then I am telling you that to let them get too tied up in that type of shite is bad never mind letting them watch things that are not appropriate to their age...........it is a pile of wank would you let your child use the internet for home work.............its only a couple of clicks for a child that could see something bad .......mine use the internet for research for homework,..........the oldest is on face book on his phone and can access the internet from this pc, his phone and his console.........and I cant supervise him all the time,..............but I trust him ,........hes capable of a lot of things on I.T as its a subject he does at school.......... what era you live in......?lol its each to there own ,.........when is a child ready to watch a hunt......?...........a lot say start them young ......a lot say they shouldn't be watching that...??....... whats the difference,.........im done with arguing today,..but a debate is fine........... being addicted to thl...........lol My girls use the net for homework, they wouldn't dream of looking for bad stuff on the net because they are innocent about such things.......it just does not figure in their thought process. I live in an era of parents make the rules and boundrys and the kids abide by those rules and boundrys and god help them if they step out of line. If they are unclear about the right course of action then they come and talk to me or mum.......about absolutely anything. And when I say something then that's the law, no arguments........sure they winge and complain but they know where they stand Believe it or not, kids like boundrys.....they thrive in such conditions If you don't want your boy to have the game then tell him "No"........simple I ve heard girls are worst than boys,.............that's one thing I will never know,...............but am greatful that my boys will hopefully bring back girls.........and I would be more worried about a couple of girls in this world than I would boys...........that's not judgeing anybody or anything ,...........but I would shite meself if a daughter of mine had a date or something when she was in her teens,...............just cant trust any fooking boys these days,.........I mean look at lab........ You could trust me 100% with your life...:-) Just not with a memorial trophy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 The one word I have not seen on this thread is "innocence"........what price your nippers innocence and how long do you want to try and make it last? To say "well its no worse than they see outside" is a complete and utter bollocks of an excuse.........home should be your childs safe place, away from the ugliness of the world.........no matter what shit happens in the day they should come home and its just innocent and simple and nice Weather they be 10 or 15 or 18 or even 25......home with your parent or parents should be the place where nothing can get at you from outside that bubble People are free to bring up their kids how they see fit, no skin off my nose but if your asking then I am telling you that to let them get too tied up in that type of shite is bad never mind letting them watch things that are not appropriate to their age...........it is a pile of wank would you let your child use the internet for home work.............its only a couple of clicks for a child that could see something bad .......mine use the internet for research for homework,..........the oldest is on face book on his phone and can access the internet from this pc, his phone and his console.........and I cant supervise him all the time,..............but I trust him ,........hes capable of a lot of things on I.T as its a subject he does at school.......... what era you live in......?lol its each to there own ,.........when is a child ready to watch a hunt......?...........a lot say start them young ......a lot say they shouldn't be watching that...??....... whats the difference,.........im done with arguing today,..but a debate is fine........... being addicted to thl...........lol My girls use the net for homework, they wouldn't dream of looking for bad stuff on the net because they are innocent about such things.......it just does not figure in their thought process. I live in an era of parents make the rules and boundrys and the kids abide by those rules and boundrys and god help them if they step out of line. If they are unclear about the right course of action then they come and talk to me or mum.......about absolutely anything. And when I say something then that's the law, no arguments........sure they winge and complain but they know where they stand Believe it or not, kids like boundrys.....they thrive in such conditions If you don't want your boy to have the game then tell him "No"........simple I ve heard girls are worst than boys,.............that's one thing I will never know,...............but am greatful that my boys will hopefully bring back girls.........and I would be more worried about a couple of girls in this world than I would boys...........that's not judgeing anybody or anything ,...........but I would shite meself if a daughter of mine had a date or something when she was in her teens,...............just cant trust any fooking boys these days,.........I mean look at lab........ You could trust me 100% with your life...:-) Just not with a memorial trophy I was going to add that but I thought if let some bell end write it.... Congratulations!! Lol 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,557 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 The funny thing is, when I clicked on the thread I thought it was about a Vauxhall Astra.......seriously I thought it was about Volkswagens......then i realised thats gti not gta ...................................f**k all this grand theft nonsense you cant beat a bit of Pacman ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,424 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) If your after a rise you won't get it from me boys, I am happy and confident with how they are turning out..... You wont see me starting a thread crying my eyes out about them sitting about watching shit on the Xbox and behaving like brats cause they can't have the latest rape and murder gameYou just enjoy what you are producing and I will enjoy what I am producing;)Chin chin Edited September 19, 2013 by WILF 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 The funny thing is, when I clicked on the thread I thought it was about a Vauxhall Astra.......seriously I thought it was about Volkswagens......then i realised thats gti not gta ...................................f**k all this grand theft nonsense you cant beat a bit of Pacman ! Canny let kids play Pac-man. Surely that would lead to obesity and canabalism? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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