swg dave 334 Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Why is the evidence that's being shown to the public all wishy washy, nothing concrete, it makes no sense The yanks have independant samples that show the use of Sarin nerve agent, I'd hazard a guess the UN inspectors will come to this conclusion too. Plenty of videos and photos that show all the signs of the use of chemical weapons. There are a couple of defectors etc that claim Assad is responsible. The US also claim to have intercepted communications from the Syrian Gov' authorising the attacks but are unwilling to share this key bit of intelligence because it's classified, I assume it will give the Russians and Iranians more information than the US are willing to on how the US intelligence org's go about their work. The yanks really need to share this, they can't just expect the rest of the world to take their word for it after 2003. Politically I don't think they even need UN support, if Russia were convinced China wouldn't matter. I wonder how many wars could be started by the USA, stating that it has evidence that a certain country has released, lets say germ warfare, on to another country but are unwilling to show proof because their proof findings are CLASSIFIED, The USA CRIMINALS IN THE WHITE HOUSE, AND THEIR PUPPET MASTER,S NEED TO BE ARRESTED, ITS TIME THE USA CITIZENS TOOK THEIR COUNTRY BACK. AND IT CAN BE DONE, TAKE EGYPT AS AN EXAMPLE.......... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 No Military intervention on Syria from Great Britain Thank fu*k for that, keep bowing to America, and being used as their lapdogs, i bet our British soldiers are pleased. fu*king about time as well, now lets see how AMERICA REACTS AND I MEAN THE USA GOVERNMENT, NOT THE USA PEOPLE, BECAUSE THE USA PEOPLE HAVE ALSO HAD ENOUGH OF THEIR WAR CRAZED MASTERS. Stop the war and bring back hunting.... What do you think.. Any man who uses chemical weapons against his own people deserves to be bombed from on high. If my country had the capability I'd say the very same thing. But where is the evidence? Why would he do something that was going to guarantee his country being attacked? I think it's complete bullsh*t No Military intervention on Syria from Great Britain Thank fu*k for that, keep bowing to America, and being used as their lapdogs, i bet our British soldiers are pleased. fu*king about time as well, now lets see how AMERICA REACTS AND I MEAN THE USA GOVERNMENT, NOT THE USA PEOPLE, BECAUSE THE USA PEOPLE HAVE ALSO HAD ENOUGH OF THEIR WAR CRAZED MASTERS. Stop the war and bring back hunting.... What do you think.. Any man who uses chemical weapons against his own people deserves to be bombed from on high. If my country had the capability I'd say the very same thing. But where is the evidence? Why would he do something that was going to guarantee his country being attacked? I think it's complete bullsh*t John show us the evidence, that assad carried out this attack, and if you can, ile second your opinion mate.. UN inspectors will have it. Even if they have samples how do we know Assad was the one who used them an not the rebels? Some UN inpectors told of their doubt that they couldn't be sure who had used them. 2litres of Nerve agent was uncovered in an Islamist house in Turkey. Rebels boasted of being able to use chemical weapons. Chemical weapons used last year which were largely ineffective...points to lack on knowlege on how to deploy them. and finally the elephant in the room...Assad is guaranteed to be overthrown by the west if there is evidence, just makes no sense unless he wants to join Saddam et al being executed. UN inspectors pulled out early due to possible US attack that never happened so they don't get to complete their investigation. It stinks to high heaven of WMD and Iraq. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Yes your right iraq did stink to high heaven wmd did not exsist blair should be brought to boot he walked out of the enqiry head held high because the enqiry was scripted before it started , SOME ONE has used gas In syria the problem is who , all nerve agents are produced under strict conditions and are traceable but as they are vapour they disperce , the yanks brits russians french , all produced them Who ever used them has been supplied, but by who , if its a set up to involve the usa Its working , after the fall of tthe ussr weapons of all descriptions went awol. Who is to say gas was not included The un inspectors will come back with the reports and make the final desision , what action do you take Hit asad hard but was it him ???????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 No Military intervention on Syria from Great Britain Thank fu*k for that, keep bowing to America, and being used as their lapdogs, i bet our British soldiers are pleased. fu*king about time as well, now lets see how AMERICA REACTS AND I MEAN THE USA GOVERNMENT, NOT THE USA PEOPLE, BECAUSE THE USA PEOPLE HAVE ALSO HAD ENOUGH OF THEIR WAR CRAZED MASTERS. Stop the war and bring back hunting.... What do you think.. Any man who uses chemical weapons against his own people deserves to be bombed from on high. If my country had the capability I'd say the very same thing. But where is the evidence? Why would he do something that was going to guarantee his country being attacked? I think it's complete bullsh*t No Military intervention on Syria from Great Britain Thank fu*k for that, keep bowing to America, and being used as their lapdogs, i bet our British soldiers are pleased. fu*king about time as well, now lets see how AMERICA REACTS AND I MEAN THE USA GOVERNMENT, NOT THE USA PEOPLE, BECAUSE THE USA PEOPLE HAVE ALSO HAD ENOUGH OF THEIR WAR CRAZED MASTERS. Stop the war and bring back hunting.... What do you think.. Any man who uses chemical weapons against his own people deserves to be bombed from on high. If my country had the capability I'd say the very same thing. But where is the evidence? Why would he do something that was going to guarantee his country being attacked? I think it's complete bullsh*t John show us the evidence, that assad carried out this attack, and if you can, ile second your opinion mate.. UN inspectors will have it. Even if they have samples how do we know Assad was the one who used them an not the rebels? Some UN inpectors told of their doubt that they couldn't be sure who had used them. 2litres of Nerve agent was uncovered in an Islamist house in Turkey. Rebels boasted of being able to use chemical weapons. Chemical weapons used last year which were largely ineffective...points to lack on knowlege on how to deploy them. and finally the elephant in the room...Assad is guaranteed to be overthrown by the west if there is evidence, just makes no sense unless he wants to join Saddam et al being executed. UN inspectors pulled out early due to possible US attack that never happened so they don't get to complete their investigation. It stinks to high heaven of WMD and Iraq. Again, that is the weapons inspectors job. People have been studying various weapons, their effects, their dispersals, delivery systems etc for decades. Why do you assume Assad has any sense? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,004 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 The west is making a rod for its own back by de-stabilising all these Arab countries. You cant trust the United States to make the right call on international matters and military involvement because they have been getting it wrong and leaving things in a much worse state since the second world war. They are a military economy as much as anything so they have to keep picking a fight every so often. The thing with the US is, they are the biggest military power but they have no class.......its like leaving a 5 year old in charge of the toy box except its the marine corps and aircraft carriers and cruise missiles I hope congress votes "No" but I cant see it as too many senators will be funded by people who stand to make money from conflict.....but, IMHO it would be better just to leave well alone and let the Arabs sort it out themselves 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinytiger 872 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 The west is making a rod for its own back by de-stabilising all these Arab countries. You cant trust the United States to make the right call on international matters and military involvement because they have been getting it wrong and leaving things in a much worse state since the second world war. They are a military economy as much as anything so they have to keep picking a fight every so often. The thing with the US is, they are the biggest military power but they have no class.......its like leaving a 5 year old in charge of the toy box except its the marine corps and aircraft carriers and cruise missiles I hope congress votes "No" but I cant see it as too many senators will be funded by people who stand to make money from conflict.....but, IMHO it would be better just to leave well alone and let the Arabs sort it out themselves i think these middle eastren countries need "pricks/strong leaders" like saddam or gadaffi or assad in charge of them..Look at all the ones that have been "liberated"-more fighting and religious fanatacism in them now than ever before..Maybe buisness leaders in the west have something to gain from turning the whole region into the green zone. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 said that years ago.saddam was a tyrant but no better or worse than the saudis imo or any of that shower if truth be told. old saddamkept order and hated bin laden and his followers.a nation like iraq went from a country with infrastructure people might have been afraid tospeak out against the regime but allarab nations are similar. now look at iraq its a f****d up death trap.aye the west certainly spread there democracy there lol should hang there heads in shame.what i find trully unbelievable that they got away with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 The west is making a rod for its own back by de-stabilising all these Arab countries. You cant trust the United States to make the right call on international matters and military involvement because they have been getting it wrong and leaving things in a much worse state since the second world war. They are a military economy as much as anything so they have to keep picking a fight every so often. The thing with the US is, they are the biggest military power but they have no class.......its like leaving a 5 year old in charge of the toy box except its the marine corps and aircraft carriers and cruise missiles I hope congress votes "No" but I cant see it as too many senators will be funded by people who stand to make money from conflict.....but, IMHO it would be better just to leave well alone and let the Arabs sort it out themselves i think these middle eastren countries need "pricks/strong leaders" like saddam or gadaffi or assad in charge of them..Look at all the ones that have been "liberated"-more fighting and religious fanatacism in them now than ever before..Maybe buisness leaders in the west have something to gain from turning the whole region into the green zone. there gang just had money money = more. Weapons. The oldest power in the world Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 said that years ago.saddam was a tyrant but no better or worse than the saudis imo or any of that shower if truth be told. old saddamkept order and hated bin laden and his followers.a nation like iraq went from a country with infrastructure people might have been afraid tospeak out against the regime but allarab nations are similar. now look at iraq its a f****d up death trap.aye the west certainly spread there democracy there lol should hang there heads in shame.what i find trully unbelievable that they got away with it. . Aint over yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeview 792 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) OK only just seen this topic(and have not read all 13 pages) last months conflict in Egypt on the news it showed the police and military v the brotherhood ie both sides Now all the time this has been going on in Syria in all the news report I have yet to see any military only the "rebels" firing wildly down streets(at what?)then filmed shots from rooftops of "explosions" exactly where the cameras are pointing (having previously lived in south Leeds those explosions are identical to cars being torched/burnt out that happened nightly.) Now the hospital shots/pictures Why is there only the one room? where they take these victims who dont seem to get much treatment so why take them there? TV cameras filmimg for their cause?Perhaps. Anyone noticed when there is a demonstration They're holding placards written in English as well as their own language? Earlier this week on the news in Damascus (the very same city) they interviewed people about Assad, these people were in street cafe bars and spoke of their support for him, this street could of been any european city to look at it,no sign of trouble or conflict just people getting on with their lives. Y.I.S Leeview Edited September 5, 2013 by Leeview Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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