Your Views On The Edl ?

[Hob&Jill 258]

Funny how people hate Pakistan and similar counties yet want us to behave in a way that would make us no better.

[WoodsmanJim 160]

I would argue its the most of muslim community as they do nothing to stand up against these jihadist, from what iv learnt they are aiding an abetting them as the Koran commands..... using lies called taqiyya also the Koran says "muslims are the best of people", but Jews and christians are the worst of creatures" what does that tell you ! sounds like racism to me

 

Really? Then I suggest you look up the meaning of 'Racism'.

 

This is sectarianism.

 

Muslim/ Islam is a religion not a race. Before you all jump on me , I'm not defending the extremists. It's just that some of you need to get your definitions correct or you'll never be able to engage in meaningful debate.

 

Sectarianism is hatred or conflict based on or between religious or political groups, Racism is hatred or conflict based on people being of different colours, creeds or nationalities. Not all Muslims are foreign, not all English people are purely white etc....

 

What we have here is Sectarianism. Tommy Robinson seems to make quite some sense and seems to have caught on to the public mood. I respect him for making the distinction between Muslims and extremist terrorists. I fully support removal of all extremists from our shores, and anyone else who doesn't respect our country and our culture or anyone who aids and abets those who wish to harm us.

 

This is interesting too http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/11/updated-europol-data-less-than-1-of-terrorist-attacks-by-muslims/

 

Jim

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strong language 18 plus

 

ok Islamic supremacism

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[WILF 44,325]

I agree and support what they stand for but dont think the football terrace antics are the way to best appeal to the public

Absolutely spot on, upto the video that of the NE march someone put up the other day all I had seen was WKD & tinny swilling idiots.....total embarrassment to England

 

However, I thought the NE lads conducted themselves very well the other day, not boozing in the video and generally just behaving right.....now that I could support, but I suspect that this Tommy Robinson character is just another Luton dipstick who is probably happiest with a few bevvys in him and causing some aggro

 

Some of the very far right Lads I knew years ago had very conservative & stricked views about how to behave themselves in public around women, kids and old folk.........site they could knock back bevvys as much as the next dude and get a bit lively around their own but they would NEVER embarrass themselves in front of those they hated

 

That's why I have always hated the BNP, to chavvy for me by far

 

Well done all you lads from the North East the other day, you acquitted yourselves well

[PIL 7]

In some ways I admire that they are at least trying to do something, and I think Tommy Robinson speaks well from what I have heard. I'm sure some of their members have sensible views.

 

The trouble with the EDL is that a lot of the members have 'racist' views, and were probably driving the BNP band wagon last week! Whether you care about the term 'racist' or not, the fact is the majority of the public do. Appealing to the majority of the public is the only way to make a difference and they have alienated themselves from the vast majority of the public by appearing a racist organisation.

 

I worry that they are too small to actually make a difference for the good of our people, yet they are big enough and so covered in the media that they could end up doing more harm than good by turning more young Muslims to extremism, through alienating them more from white people.

 

How many of their members actually care about the difference between a hard-working, assimilating Hindu Indian shop owner and a Muslim?

 

They don't help themselves either with their stupid, slightly provocative name. What about Wales and Scotland? Do they not matter? Defence? What and how are they defending anything? A few skin heads turning up to a march? What do they actually do that achieves anything?

 

I'd rather concentrate on getting a proper, well organised, intelligent party like UKIP into power!

 

Wales , Scotland and Northern Ireland have they're own sections all in for the common cause

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[Gaz_1989 9,539]

 

 

 

 

 

If we followed true to that approach then Jamie Bulgers killers are 10 year olds. So lets deport all 10 year olds. Ian Huntley was a caretaker, lets deport all caretakers.

That's a terrible analogy mate.

Ian Huntley didn't kill because he was a caretaker. He killed because he was a nut case.

Same for all other one of murderers/rapists/peadophiles etc.

These are killing BECAUSE THEY ARE MUSLIM!!!

I'm not saying all Muslims are terrorists. But all terrorists are Muslim.

So f**k off all the Muslims. Problem solved.

All terrorist are Muslim ? You sure about that

 

There's a hole load of white catholic terrorists,, just across the water,,,

 

And a good few different white factions in Europe ,,, mind there not bombing us,, just there own country's ,,, eta ,, barder minoff ,,,,, and there was some wired welsh feckers back in the 80s that wanted independance ,,lol

We aren't talking about them mate. We are talking about these Muslim extremists.

 

There are 2 sides. For them and against them. No middle ground.

 

I fell out with my brother in law yesterday for defending these scum. How any English man can defend these is beyond me. How anyone can say they shouldn't all be deported worries me.

I guess the correct analogy then would be, durring 'the troubles' not all Irish were IRA but all IRA were Irish........... therefore all Irish should have been "f****d off" from British soil?

Maybe you are right. Lets leave them all here and do nothing then.

 

Drop me a pm when they are in charge of the country

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

 

 

 

If we followed true to that approach then Jamie Bulgers killers are 10 year olds. So lets deport all 10 year olds. Ian Huntley was a caretaker, lets deport all careta

These are killing BECAUSE THEY ARE MUSLIM!!!

 

I'm not saying all Muslims are terrorists. But all terrorists are Muslim.

 

What a rubbish statement ....what about the IRA...or the Basque seperatives....even the The French resistance during WW2

You scared to stand up? I drove 3 hours to stand with the EDL yesterday. Did you? Or were you sat at home saying how terrible these attacks are getting?

[Born Hunter 17,638]

 

 

 

 

 

If we followed true to that approach then Jamie Bulgers killers are 10 year olds. So lets deport all 10 year olds. Ian Huntley was a caretaker, lets deport all caretakers.

That's a terrible analogy mate.

Ian Huntley didn't kill because he was a caretaker. He killed because he was a nut case.

Same for all other one of murderers/rapists/peadophiles etc.

These are killing BECAUSE THEY ARE MUSLIM!!!

I'm not saying all Muslims are terrorists. But all terrorists are Muslim.

So f**k off all the Muslims. Problem solved.

All terrorist are Muslim ? You sure about that

 

There's a hole load of white catholic terrorists,, just across the water,,,

 

And a good few different white factions in Europe ,,, mind there not bombing us,, just there own country's ,,, eta ,, barder minoff ,,,,, and there was some wired welsh feckers back in the 80s that wanted independance ,,lol

We aren't talking about them mate. We are talking about these Muslim extremists.

 

There are 2 sides. For them and against them. No middle ground.

 

I fell out with my brother in law yesterday for defending these scum. How any English man can defend these is beyond me. How anyone can say they shouldn't all be deported worries me.

I guess the correct analogy then would be, durring 'the troubles' not all Irish were IRA but all IRA were Irish........... therefore all Irish should have been "f****d off" from British soil?

Maybe you are right. Lets leave them all here and do nothing then.

 

Drop me a pm when they are in charge of the country

 

 

Haha, okay, our options as you see it are, f**k them all off or they will take over the country? No middle ground at all.

 

Anyway, should we have f****d off all the Irish from British soil in the 80's?

[WILF 44,325]

Yes, we should have f****d all the Irish off.......I wound up married to a Belfast girl !! Lol lol lol

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If we followed true to that approach then Jamie Bulgers killers are 10 year olds. So lets deport all 10 year olds. Ian Huntley was a caretaker, lets deport all caretakers.

That's a terrible analogy mate.

Ian Huntley didn't kill because he was a caretaker. He killed because he was a nut case.

Same for all other one of murderers/rapists/peadophiles etc.

These are killing BECAUSE THEY ARE MUSLIM!!!

I'm not saying all Muslims are terrorists. But all terrorists are Muslim.

So f**k off all the Muslims. Problem solved.

All terrorist are Muslim ? You sure about that

 

There's a hole load of white catholic terrorists,, just across the water,,,

 

And a good few different white factions in Europe ,,, mind there not bombing us,, just there own country's ,,, eta ,, barder minoff ,,,,, and there was some wired welsh feckers back in the 80s that wanted independance ,,lol

We aren't talking about them mate. We are talking about these Muslim extremists.

 

There are 2 sides. For them and against them. No middle ground.

 

I fell out with my brother in law yesterday for defending these scum. How any English man can defend these is beyond me. How anyone can say they shouldn't all be deported worries me.

I guess the correct analogy then would be, durring 'the troubles' not all Irish were IRA but all IRA were Irish........... therefore all Irish should have been "f****d off" from British soil?

Maybe you are right. Lets leave them all here and do nothing then.

 

Drop me a pm when they are in charge of the country

Haha, okay, our options as you see it are, f**k them all off or they will take over the country? No middle ground at all.

 

Anyway, should we have f****d off all the Irish from British soil in the 80's?

The Irish are nothing to do with this.

 

What's the middle ground? Put the "few" naughty ones in prison? Lol. Wake up.

[Born Hunter 17,638]

Realistically? I'd focus on threats to British security, rather than religion. Just because 99% of those threats originate from extremist Muslims simply means that Islam is the demographic where security operations are focussed. Simply booting out all Muslims would not be accepted and unrealistic............ you assume naively all Muslims are first generation immigrants, which of course they are not. So where exactly do we f**k them off to? And what happens when that state says, "your rubbish, deal with it"?

 

So what would I do if in such a position of power?............... Give the Security Services with the assistance of the Military and specialist terrorism units the freedom to act ruthlessly! Surgically cut this cancer out of society with no bending the knee to liberal politicians!

 

Any British national found to actively be distributing or participating in terrorist propaganda would be tried for treason, not some new anti terrorism law. Any Immigrant found to be doing the same will be tried for terrorism and then extradited. Reinstate the maximum penalty for Treason and Terrorism as the death penalty.

 

Control immigration properly, in line with the australians. Immigrants are accepted for the good of the country, not for their own benefit.

 

Countries found to be producing terrorists would be expected to deal with them, otherwise they are a threat to this nations security and our military will deal with it for them. No applogies and no bull shit excuses that we are doing it for the poor oppressed people of that nation.

 

This would solve the problem and the people of the Islamic faith that are peacefull, integrated and love Britain at heart can remain. Stricter immigration laws would prevent immigrant populations growing any further.

 

More sensible than "f**k them all off"?

[jonah. 775]

Realistically? I'd focus on threats to British security, rather than religion. Just because 99% of those threats originate from extremist Muslims simply means that Islam is the demographic where security operations are focussed. Simply booting out all Muslims would not be accepted and unrealistic............ you assume naively all Muslims are first generation immigrants, which of course they are not. So where exactly do we f**k them off to? And what happens when that state says, "your rubbish, deal with it"?

 

So what would I do if in such a position of power?............... Give the Security Services with the assistance of the Military and specialist terrorism units the freedom to act ruthlessly! Surgically cut this cancer out of society with no bending the knee to liberal politicians!

 

Any British national found to actively be distributing or participating in terrorist propaganda would be tried for treason, not some new anti terrorism law. Any Immigrant found to be doing the same will be tried for terrorism and then extradited. Reinstate the maximum penalty for Treason and Terrorism as the death penalty.

 

Control immigration properly, in line with the australians. Immigrants are accepted for the good of the country, not for their own benefit.

 

Countries found to be producing terrorists would be expected to deal with them, otherwise they are a threat to this nations security and our military will deal with it for them. No applogies and no bull shit excuses that we are doing it for the poor oppressed people of that nation.

 

This would solve the problem and the people of the Islamic faith that are peacefull, integrated and love Britain at heart can remain. Stricter immigration laws would prevent immigrant populations growing any further.

 

More sensible than "f**k them all off"?

very well put.

[barnesyboy86 14]

 

Realistically? I'd focus on threats to British security, rather than religion. Just because 99% of those threats originate from extremist Muslims simply means that Islam is the demographic where security operations are focussed. Simply booting out all Muslims would not be accepted and unrealistic............ you assume naively all Muslims are first generation immigrants, which of course they are not. So where exactly do we f**k them off to? And what happens when that state says, "your rubbish, deal with it"? So what would I do if in such a position of power?............... Give the Security Services with the assistance of the Military and specialist terrorism units the freedom to act ruthlessly! Surgically cut this cancer out of society with no bending the knee to liberal politicians! Any British national found to actively be distributing or participating in terrorist propaganda would be tried for treason, not some new anti terrorism law. Any Immigrant found to be doing the same will be tried for terrorism and then extradited. Reinstate the maximum penalty for Treason and Terrorism as the death penalty. Control immigration properly, in line with the australians. Immigrants are accepted for the good of the country, not for their own benefit. Countries found to be producing terrorists would be expected to deal with them, otherwise they are a threat to this nations security and our military will deal with it for them. No applogies and no bull shit excuses that we are doing it for the poor oppressed people of that nation. This would solve the problem and the people of the Islamic faith that are peacefull, integrated and love Britain at heart can remain. Stricter immigration laws would prevent immigrant populations growing any further. More sensible than "f**k them all off"?

very well put.

 

I have to agree. Spot on. We need to box better and regroup here in the UK. As I said before, their beef is we are poking our nose on the take. If they're willing to fight back in the sly snydy way they have then we need our boys here dealing with it, not abroad lining the greedy pockets of men who feed on the people they're supposed to lead.

[bwfc 164]

So how would you make the distinction between between terrorist and none terrorist Muslim?.You can interview them all you want,but ive never met a muslim who speaks the truth.Ive lived amongst Muslims on and off since the early 70s and not one would i ever ever trust.Im an honest guy and take everyone at face value,that way i can always tell the truth without predudice.

We need a goverment who can act asap,instead of a bunch of ignorant,lying,selfish,fuckwitted b*****ds!.I dread to think where the next two years are gonna take us.

Edited May 28, 2013 by bwfc