the_stig 6,614 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 alcoholism is a disease if it is a so called disease its hardly natural..........................self inflicted ............. hes had his chances ............................waste of space , send the money to a worthy cause like some one dieing from a natural cause instead of a self inflicted one......... i cant see how they can class it as a disease ,................if thats the case then people adicted to all drugs have a disease.......... thought you might of had more of a understanding of it ....did you not say on another thread------------- i lost my mind through drink and drugs and it aint a good place to be ... you want to quote me on something you know nothing about stig ...................ive sorted me own problems out ...............this man has been helped a number of times .........................i have lost me mind on drink and drugs.................and its made me total anti drugs,........ you live and learn.............edit to say sorry to hear about your uncle and i got me kids and thats what pulls me through......... do you ever get the feeling you shouldnt of replied to a thread......lol because i had a different oppionion on gazza i m wrong , ...i have me own beliefs and when people say "oh my grandad had that or aunty or uncle" so i know what your going through,.......... i could live with people having it at an age but when people havent had much of a life(especially children)...........it hurts to see it........ life goes on so this was my logic behind my opionion ,....either like it or lump it,................. just my account and beliefs .............. i quoted you simply because you posted it -- the gazza subject was/is as any other open to debate... like you say i only know of the problem you had from what you posted and i quoted you on -- just seemed strange that someone who`d had a problem would know something of gazzas situation .. like wise if you dont like my opionions -- like it or lump it ... lol...........i was nothing like gascoigne ,...for one i wasnt an alchoholic ,........infact im not justifying explaining what happened to me ..............but it was all weekend binges that took its toll on me ..........cheers for your opionions it means alot........... to quote you again.................. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,484 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 alcoholism is a disease if it is a so called disease its hardly natural..........................self inflicted ............. hes had his chances ............................waste of space , send the money to a worthy cause like some one dieing from a natural cause instead of a self inflicted one......... i cant see how they can class it as a disease ,................if thats the case then people adicted to all drugs have a disease.......... thought you might of had more of a understanding of it ....did you not say on another thread------------- i lost my mind through drink and drugs and it aint a good place to be ... you want to quote me on something you know nothing about stig ...................ive sorted me own problems out ...............this man has been helped a number of times .........................i have lost me mind on drink and drugs.................and its made me total anti drugs,........ you live and learn.............edit to say sorry to hear about your uncle and i got me kids and thats what pulls me through......... do you ever get the feeling you shouldnt of replied to a thread......lol because i had a different oppionion on gazza i m wrong , ...i have me own beliefs and when people say "oh my grandad had that or aunty or uncle" so i know what your going through,.......... i could live with people having it at an age but when people havent had much of a life(especially children)...........it hurts to see it........ life goes on so this was my logic behind my opionion ,....either like it or lump it,................. just my account and beliefs .............. i quoted you simply because you posted it -- the gazza subject was/is as any other open to debate... like you say i only know of the problem you had from what you posted and i quoted you on -- just seemed strange that someone who`d had a problem would know something of gazzas situation .. like wise if you dont like my opionions -- like it or lump it ... lol...........i was nothing like gascoigne ,...for one i wasnt an alchoholic ,........infact im not justifying explaining what happened to me ..............but it was all weekend binges that took its toll on me ..........cheers for your opionions it means alot........... thats what ALL alchoholic say........................ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 alcoholism is a disease if it is a so called disease its hardly natural..........................self inflicted ............. hes had his chances ............................waste of space , send the money to a worthy cause like some one dieing from a natural cause instead of a self inflicted one......... i cant see how they can class it as a disease ,................if thats the case then people adicted to all drugs have a disease.......... thought you might of had more of a understanding of it ....did you not say on another thread------------- i lost my mind through drink and drugs and it aint a good place to be ... you want to quote me on something you know nothing about stig ...................ive sorted me own problems out ...............this man has been helped a number of times .........................i have lost me mind on drink and drugs.................and its made me total anti drugs,........ you live and learn.............edit to say sorry to hear about your uncle and i got me kids and thats what pulls me through......... do you ever get the feeling you shouldnt of replied to a thread......lol because i had a different oppionion on gazza i m wrong , ...i have me own beliefs and when people say "oh my grandad had that or aunty or uncle" so i know what your going through,.......... i could live with people having it at an age but when people havent had much of a life(especially children)...........it hurts to see it........ life goes on so this was my logic behind my opionion ,....either like it or lump it,................. just my account and beliefs .............. i quoted you simply because you posted it -- the gazza subject was/is as any other open to debate... like you say i only know of the problem you had from what you posted and i quoted you on -- just seemed strange that someone who`d had a problem would know something of gazzas situation .. like wise if you dont like my opionions -- like it or lump it ... lol...........i was nothing like gascoigne ,...for one i wasnt an alchoholic ,........infact im not justifying explaining what happened to me ..............but it was all weekend binges that took its toll on me ..........cheers for your opionions it means alot........... thats what ALL alchoholic say........................ your an absouloute tool tuffty ....................it would be on my medical records if you want to come over and check them ..............? i got nothing to hide if i was an alchaholic i would say..............eeeeejit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukey 1,621 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Whippet my heart goes out to you and your family. But you just seem to want to disagree with everyone n everything mate, is it just me that thinks that? Maybe you just like getting into a debate I don't know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) Whippet my heart goes out to you and your family. But you just seem to want to disagree with everyone n everything mate, is it just me that thinks that? Maybe you just like getting into a debate I don't know hes being influnced by his music hes listening too, kieser chiefs i predict a riot lol Edited February 18, 2013 by BIG G wheton machine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 your an absouloute tool tuffty ....................it would be on my medical records if you want to come over and check them ..............? i got nothing to hide if i was an alchaholic i would say..............eeeeejit " Weekend Binge Drinker " is on your medical records ??? ..............What about " miserable on Monday mornings " ?... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukey 1,621 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Tbh the guy seems alright but always seem to me to disagree with everything, like a dude from my work, he'll ask you for a size of something, and no matter what ye tell him he'll always double check n add 2mil on lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Whippet my heart goes out to you and your family. But you just seem to want to disagree with everyone n everything mate, is it just me that thinks that? Maybe you just like getting into a debate I don't know not really , i answered a question of the thread starter and stated people would be better off if the money was spent on what i believe ,.........are in more dire straights than mr gascoigne.............because of reasons i believe to be correct........ then i was in a amicable debate............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 your an absouloute tool tuffty ....................it would be on my medical records if you want to come over and check them ..............? i got nothing to hide if i was an alchaholic i would say..............eeeeejit " Weekend Binge Drinker " is on your medical records ??? ..............What about " miserable on Monday mornings " ?... you miss read it .........if i was an alchoholic it would be on my medical records...... taking the michael..lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 why does the world spend millions upon millions saving the panda its fooked its got nowhere left to live or increase its population maybe the money would be better spend saving something that can be saved, not my words chris packhem but very true Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukey 1,621 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Cool whippet I probs just picking things up wrong! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 you miss read it .........if i was an alchoholic it would be on my medical records...... taking the michael..lol oh ok i see......i beg your pardon...... I thought it sounded like the words of a drunk ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 is my replies to this thread so out of order...............? or is it because i dont jump on the band wagon............lol lukey maybe because of my situation i just see things a little different ,............and when you see some one who could of had everything and had more chances than a cat................it gets too you because there are alot who dont get a second chance and to make it worst it was self propelled...... i do think too much sometimes...........and its good to be different..........thanks 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Its absolutely nothing to do with sport its about sticking up for my own.......your an Englishman in England i,ll stick up for you,your wife,your kids just the same as i,ll stick up for Gazza.........long before i,ll stick up for people we have no connection with. What the problem/illness is....is irrellevant its about standing up for your fellow Englishman.....or woman/child......and putting our own kind first. thats fair enough , but i dont stick up for anybody who was someone who achived greatly in any career and become a legend , its up to them to keep there legend status after there career...................i will stick up for my own for the right reasons...................gary glitter was a great singer but because of what he is i couldnt care if he dropped dead tommorrow..........a true legend in my eyes can be in disrepute for activities done in later life..............look at OUR jimmy saville the legendary charity worker..........(just an example) ok gazza cant be compared to peados .........................but the guy has beat his misses and had numerous chances .................im all for chances but even his own family got shite on after they were doing all they could to cure him,................. at the end of the day its nothing to do about standing by your own this thread was about giving to a worthy cause and i think there are better worthy causes here in england / great britain........ From what I can gather his problems aren't only drink related but his mental health isn't at it's best these days either, which can lead people to do things they normally wouldn't. That's not to make excuses for him, as I agree beating women up is disgraceful but maybe...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,959 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) is my replies to this thread so out of order...............? or is it because i dont jump on the band wagon............lol lukey maybe because of my situation i just see things a little different ,............and when you see some one who could of had everything and had more chances than a cat................it gets too you because there are alot who dont get a second chance and to make it worst it was self propelled...... i do think too much sometimes...........and its good to be different..........thanks I certainly agree with your general point. But then I'm not influenced by his hero/legendary status. I'm just looking at the whole thing as objectively as possible. I can't help but think of soldiers with only one limb left and scarred to f**k sitting proud, quiet and strong............... then think of the mess of a man this threads about........... that's all there is to it for me, no further debate needed to justify my feelings on the matter. Edited February 18, 2013 by Born Hunter 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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