where to go in the dales?

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

i went to the dales yesterday and went near buckden area, found a public footpath and walked along it for a few miles, dogs had some great runs and came back with 4 rabbits, better than nothing tbh and we had a quality day out!

 

That is called Poaching. It is also clearly unlawful under the terms of the Hunting Act as you did not have the permission of the landowner. The presence of a footpath means you have the right to pass and re-pass, nothing more, nothing less.

 

Perhaps worse is the irreparable damage actions like this do to legitimate lurcherwork/ferreting. A couple of my mates have permission around that area and there are some lads who PAY to shoot on certain farms in that valley. The fact that some people have spent over 20 years gaining the trust of landowners in the Dales who are now understandably sick to death of people wandering on their land with dogs and WILL now ring the police who are rightly adopting a zero tolerance stance.

 

All the lads who can't get permission - sell your dogs!!! Lol.

[Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin]

TBH the dales aint all that if you can only do a ton a night its not fecking worth it

[TOMO 27,514]

Well what a big thread overnight,,lol,,,, patterdalejoel that was obviously a pop at me about the 101 rabbits,,, cos it was me and Andy that did it...........now you proberbly have a point,, I'm sure my posts on the dales are partly to blame,, but I'm not the only one am I ,,,, after all you guys put as many posts as me up,,,, and you jai...not to mention ernlad.

 

The only problem I had with the original op,,,, was him pm me asking for directions,,,,,lol. Then asking on here,, like most lads I poach,, so know way would I tell a guy not to,,, but I didn't know where to go to at first up the dales,,,, just went. Got off me arse and found places,,,,, and like darbo I blame hosker . been going there myself 25 years.

 

Perhaps best if I don't put day out posts up any more,,,,

[whippet 99 2,613]

the internet is such a hypercritical place sometimes ,..............were not angels and we all do things we regret .

i think folk can be harsh sometimes ,............if folk look after there dukels and get out and do a bit , surely thats all what matters....!

we are all hypocrits some times and any man who says different are lying ............

i dont know ideation , but can see both sides of the story ......but he ads good hunting threads to the forum .......but yet again gets alot of stick.........!

i can see why people are knocking him ,..........but he is only trying to protect a passion of hunting...........

its so easy to try and be someone your not on the internet ..........too easy sometimes , but from judging what ive read on here what ideation has written , he doesnt seem a bad person......

the thing is lets be honest ,.........the dales will never be a place easy to protect , people find it hard that poaching will carry on ...............it always will as long as the dales will remain, some folk on here speak as if they own the dales ,......its a haven for rabbits and man and dog and is growing in popularity for hunting all the time...........

its amazing how we all argue but share the same passion ................clicky place is the dog world

[Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin]

Nowt wrong with telling folk your bag sizes and nights/days out etc .

 

Its the feckers who come with out permission who feck it up not the folk with permission .

 

Most of the members are a jealous load of kunts you can see the jealousy even in there typing

 

TBH you can soon see who are top blokes and who are the knobbers

 

ATB Cookie happy hunting

 

Edited to correct as whippets 99 pointed out

Edited November 5, 2012 by cookiemonsterandmerlin

[whippet 99 2,613]

Nowt wrong with telling folk your bag sizes and nights/days out etc .

 

Its the feckers who come with out permission who feck it up not the folk with permission .

 

Most of the members are a jealous load of kunts you can see the jealousy even in there typing

 

TBH you can soon see though top blokes and knobbers

 

ATB Cookie happy hunting

if you can see through top blokes then there not top blokes are they.............

[omegathelast 160]

I do actually understand how frustrating it can be if you love your working dogs and do not have permission and accept that a 'mouch' seems innocent enough. I still say you should try and try again because if you go about it in the right way you will eventually get some and once you get one it is so much easier to get more or try and get out with some lads that have some land. Whilst it might be an innocent mooch, you are probably tramping on land where some one has permission or shooting rights. If you have some permission you won't get tarred with the same brush as the minority of idiots that have ruined the reputation of the sport we all love. It is also so much more enjoyable being able to relax and concentrate on working your dogs.

 

I had a bit of a rant yesterday, possibly a bit OTT! but like most on here I have a passion for lurcherwork. Whether we like it or not land owners are very sceptical and suspicious because of things that have happened like generators going missing etc In many cases the finger is being pointed directly at dog men. One of the farmers (great bloke) where we used to go had a quad nicked and all the evidence at that time pointed to a van with men and dogs in the back - he would'nt make that up. The story about the dog being thrown out of the Transit is 100% true and was shameful. On the permission I have now got back the farmers made it very clear they wouldnt have let anyone else on because of problems they had had in the area, including dog lads wandering across their land - even at lambing time!! One has now insisted I phone him everytime I plan to go on so he can be sure its me if he 'gets a phone call'. In the past he didnt care so it just shows how times have sadly changed.

 

I will refrain from further ranting (at the moment) and all the best to those who are trying for permission.

Edited November 5, 2012 by omegathelast

[paulus 26]

im one of the lucky ones who has a fair amount of permision for both lurchers and shooting. like the rest of you if im honest ive spent time over the fence, still do at times. however if your sensible and more to the point, respectfull, then theres every chance nobody will ever know. Howerever post it on the local noticeboard and get ready to take the flack. Rural crime is just that and its a growing problem so strangers with lurchers wandering around fields daytime are now classed as suspicious where as a few years ago they wouldnt have been noticed. The media has also played a big part in this, with its anti hunting propaganda agenda.

[WILF 48,415]

The shooting times is one of the very worst for it, they had an article in there saying people offering to do free pest control were most likely criminals looking to steal things!!!!!

 

The fact is that a place I have permission on local has seen the trouble from thieves drop to almost zero because I am up there so often and people know someone is about at odd times of the night.

It's the places that don't allow lamping local that get all the hassle, they have seen vast amounts of equipment stolen overnight.

 

I feel the rest of the hunting community are very much to blame in for a lot of the prejudice about working lurchers with the pull up the ladder mentality......but to be honest I have never seen a bloke pigeon shooting, flying hawks or working ferrets at 2 o'clock in the morning which is when most of the crime is happening.

 

A decent regular team of lamping lads working closely with a land owner are a real bonus security wise.

 

It's a self fuelling thing, farmers and land owners have hassle, are misinformed that its has something to do with dogs, won't give out permission, so lads have to jump over a fence and so the whole circle starts again.

 

Shame

[jonah. 775]

The shooting times is one of the very worst for it, they had an article in there saying people offering to do free pest control were most likely criminals looking to steal things!!!!!

 

The fact is that a place I have permission on local has seen the trouble from thieves drop to almost zero because I am up there so often and people know someone is about at odd times of the night.

It's the places that don't allow lamping local that get all the hassle, they have seen vast amounts of equipment stolen overnight.

 

I feel the rest of the hunting community are very much to blame in for a lot of the prejudice about working lurchers with the pull up the ladder mentality......but to be honest I have never seen a bloke pigeon shooting, flying hawks or working ferrets at 2 o'clock in the morning which is when most of the crime is happening.

 

A decent regular team of lamping lads working closely with a land owner are a real bonus security wise.

 

It's a self fuelling thing, farmers and land owners have hassle, are misinformed that its has something to do with dogs, won't give out permission, so lads have to jump over a fence and so the whole circle starts again.

 

Shame

 

cuntrymans weekly pulled that little line more than once.....

[Ideation 8,216]

for once i was right,, you are a bad ONE,,, its wrote all over some folks mush,,,,YOU ARE NOT to be trusted,,,slashing a dog mans tyer,s... when your no saint your self,,,,your the type sh,t what get in the tred of my boots,,, your,,bad bad,man,,, i shud not of put man,,,

 

You an idiot mate, and so is the lad that dug up that old thread.

 

I have never slashed anyones tires, the point i made was if i had permission that was getting hammered by someone and they were proper f*****g it up for me, i'd be tempted to take drastic action (NO - NOT call the police before you think that).

 

If you could fecking read it might help!

 

You were right about what, you fool? That i'm NOT TO BE TRUSTED. And why is that?

 

How many times have you had a chat to the police eh?

 

Trying to make out someone is a snake and a grass, just because they dont like you, now THAT is low.

[patterdalejoel 669]

Well what a big thread overnight,,lol,,,, patterdalejoel that was obviously a pop at me about the 101 rabbits,,, cos it was me and Andy that did it...........now you proberbly have a point,, I'm sure my posts on the dales are partly to blame,, but I'm not the only one am I ,,,, after all you guys put as many posts as me up,,,, and you jai...not to mention ernlad.

 

The only problem I had with the original op,,,, was him pm me asking for directions,,,,,lol. Then asking on here,, like most lads I poach,, so know way would I tell a guy not to,,, but I didn't know where to go to at first up the dales,,,, just went. Got off me arse and found places,,,,, and like darbo I blame hosker . been going there myself 25 years.

 

Perhaps best if I don't put day out posts up any more,,,,

 

wasnt a pop at you TOMO i dont have a clue who put up the 101 thread as i dont really look at the lurcher section, i just think it sensationalises the dales and gives the wrong impression to some people on here. i dont feel like putting day out pics on anymore either, which is a shame as i like reading others and sharing mine

[WILF 48,415]

Not having a go, but if you have permission and someone is on there hammering it then you need to get out there more and make sure you catch up with them.

You don't have to come over all " Rambo" about it, normally a sensible conversation is enough......tell them it's yours, tell them not to take the piss but calmly and firmly tell them you WILL do something about it if they continue because they are f*****g things up for you............most folk can get their head round that.

 

 

 

 

[Giro 2,648]

for once i was right,, you are a bad ONE,,, its wrote all over some folks mush,,,,YOU ARE NOT to be trusted,,,slashing a dog mans tyer,s... when your no saint your self,,,,your the type sh,t what get in the tred of my boots,,, your,,bad bad,man,,, i shud not of put man,,,

 

You an idiot mate, and so is the lad that dug up that old thread.

 

I have never slashed anyones tires, the point i made was if i had permission that was getting hammered by someone and they were proper f*****g it up for me, i'd be tempted to take drastic action (NO - NOT call the police before you think that).

 

If you could fecking read it might help!

 

You were right about what, you fool? That i'm NOT TO BE TRUSTED. And why is that?

 

How many times have you had a chat to the police eh?

 

Trying to make out someone is a snake and a grass, just because they dont like you, now THAT is low.

 

 

Your the Idiot now you would be "tempted" ha ha ...

 

What about your line about going back with "a big friend" ??

 

Your a f*****g fanny back peddle yourself from that one :laugh:

[downsouth 7,817]

Dont know why everyone is ranting on about the dales,The rabbits must be shit thats why such big numbers are caught.Southern rabbits are the best i was lamping them for years and hardly caught any.