scothunter 12,609 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Right I have heard this a couple of times about burglars or trespassers getting bitten, and the owner being prosecuted. Has anyone actually been convicted? If an intruder climbs over a very high secure fence into a yard, or someone's property and it's clearly sign posted that there dogs about. I can't see the owner being prosecuted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KittleRox 2,147 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Greg, the man with the collie and rucksack, who wanted the water bottle filled. You didn't happen to notice if he had 2 rabbits in the rucksake? no, but he had definitely misslaid his watering can Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KittleRox 2,147 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Right I have heard this a couple of times about burglars or trespassers getting bitten, and the owner being prosecuted. Has anyone actually been convicted? If an intruder climbs over a very high secure fence into a yard, or someone's property and it's clearly sign posted that there dogs about. I can't see the owner being prosecuted. it,ll be be whats defined as reasonable force etc etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,014 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Right I have heard this a couple of times about burglars or trespassers getting bitten, and the owner being prosecuted. Has anyone actually been convicted? If an intruder climbs over a very high secure fence into a yard, or someone's property and it's clearly sign posted that there dogs about. I can't see the owner being prosecuted. the law would be on there side, because if you went on there propriety the dog should be in a control state i.e with the owner there .? not on its( own) ripping your leg in 1/2 lol .And to honest how many times have you read, that they broke in and killed the dog (rottie,gsd, .......) shot it or poson it .Alot better to be there with dog i think , Si would tell you the same and he as worked guard breeds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,346 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 In the right circumstance yes ..BUT why should i my pup WAS on a lead under control.. Fair enough.......personally id be more inclined to get into the owner than a dog who dont know no better...but each to their own......just dont think i could boot a dog in the head unless it was an extreme circumstance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moll. 1,793 Posted June 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 In the right circumstance yes ..BUT why should i my pup WAS on a lead under control.. Fair enough.......personally id be more inclined to get into the owner than a dog who dont know no better...but each to their own......just dont think i could boot a dog in the head unless it was an extreme circumstance. But you still have to deal with the uncontrolled dog approaching your pup first, and unfortunately Gnasher most people nowadays who own dogs do not have a clue about dogs or their behaviours. "please put your dog on a lead" "It's ok, he only wants to play" "Mine dont! Please put your dog on a lead!!" "I don't have one, don't need one" (Dog launches itself at mine) "Oh, he's NEVER done that before" Next time you see them.....still no lead! I could give you dozens of similar scenarios. And yes it is the owners fault, and sad for the dog they own but that is no help when you have a young dog you are desperately trying to keep well adjusted and sociable and a dog with the capacity of doing serious harm approaches in attack mode. Hence the reason dogs should be on leads in public places. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moll. 1,793 Posted June 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Right I have heard this a couple of times about burglars or trespassers getting bitten, and the owner being prosecuted. Has anyone actually been convicted? If an intruder climbs over a very high secure fence into a yard, or someone's property and it's clearly sign posted that there dogs about. I can't see the owner being prosecuted. I think the reasoning behind this adjustment to the law will be because of the attacks on children within the family home. Wasn't there a child killed recently in the grandmothers house? But i have no doubt it could be a tool used to get dogs they want to get for other reasons. And what scares me is, how do they define aggression, what 'experts' make that decision? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 me and 2 of my dogs were attacked by a german shepard the year before last, it latched onto the young dogs shoulder before being beaten off by me and the other dog, that young dog now goes into defense mode every time he comes face to face with a new dog, ive tried eveything to get him out of it, but to no avail. all because some prat couldnt be bothered to use a lead. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,984 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Happened to a american bulldog I used to have Paulus, a dog Bordeaux and a lab attacked her at the same time when she was 3/4 months old and from that day she hated other dogs and would try kill them before they got the chance...holing back a 95lb lump of muscle was hard work but I'd never have let her off in a public place even walk her in one. She came in handy when some scumbag alcoholic child beating cnut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,984 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 S german shepherd tried attacking me, she nearly tore it's head off! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 me and 2 of my dogs were attacked by a german shepard the year before last, it latched onto the young dogs shoulder before being beaten off by me and the other dog, that young dog now goes into defense mode every time he comes face to face with a new dog, ive tried eveything to get him out of it, but to no avail. all because some prat couldnt be bothered to use a lead. Same with my dog, attacked by two off lead staffys when he was about 12 months, now he'd prefer to get the first punch in then ask questions later. He's happy as larry unless a dog comes within lead length, and especially if he feels Ruby is the subject of the attention, there's no hesitation to get stuck in regardless of what dogs doing the winding up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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