COLLIE GREYHOUND THE WORST DOGS IVE SEEN..........

[2.8 guy 403]

AND SOME OF THE BEST TOO so put your pitch forks down,hello and welcom to my chat ive owned collie x in the past some out of a srain line bred some ive bred myself some ive just bought in or had given and to say all been very different would be a understament my first was a beardy border x a true hard grafter 100% game and loyal the next was border collie x SPEN out of DAVID JAMES strain line bred to NIXONS DRUM very obiedent good all rounder not game but a best mate. then ive had its half sister out of same bitch to a HANCOCK DOG out of RUFUS a total load of rubbish this dog wouldnt pick up a rabbit ive seen noted hare killers like BRIAN ELLIS FLY racey and sleek then the mother to my SPEN a ugly mongrel looking thing that would never win a show but the best dog ive ever seen flatten hares turn foxes inside out rabbits live to hand run and run but ive seen a few of late that only run as many as they want then give in and stand and look at you. back in my day it was collie x and they was the big thing all your so called lurcher elite had em and many a book has been wrote starring these dogs and people Ive had a look around on here and have seen theres some good articles from people who realy know there stuff this article is to draw you out whos breeding good stuff or who has a good stud dog like ive said ive seen the good the bad and the ugly whats your thoughts

[KittleRox 2,147]

Love them hate them whatever, theres a certain something in a collie lurcher which personaly I gel with, some folk don,t though, good and bad in every breed though

[Country Joe 1,411]

There was a lad from my neck of the woods who always had Collie X Greyhounds and 3/4 dogs, going back 50 years, had some useful dogs, none were Hancock bred, he would get hold of a track bitch and find a long legged working hill collie, plenty where i come from

give the Farmer a bottle of Whiskey, and away you go.

Edited January 7, 2012 by Country Joe

[whin 463]

got good collie type lurcher but in general not alover of overly coliefied dogs , some to heavy to cowardly some to nesh , but then saw others like bob luke lana danny etc face a lion but saw alot that were born cowards and only ever a rabbit dog ,saw som ethat would kill al sorts were ever but few and far between , collie t me has got good feet, coat, thats all i want out them at times , alot jack if ran hard

[whin 463]

ps what wa you name before you put the post up or are you a guy with several handles ,

[Country Joe 1,411]

Whin my lad, your spot on.

[whin 463]

in what paragraph joe , the real working beradies were alot hardeir ,saw alot of hanckocks early collie border type run away from a fox couldnt catch a hare and this is when there was no ban ,a colie type can be agreat dog but i would be very careful on what i bred into my collie lurcher ,or trying see a rea one thats producing but were are they

[Country Joe 1,411]

Couldn't really tell what they were like on fox, as here in the South west years ago, no one bothered them with dogs, it was only hares and rabbit, and Pheasant., first dog I ever saw jack on a hare was a collie x greyhound, I saw another one, run a few, but never seen it catch, after a course, you never saw the dog, you went to the nearest water, and he would be submerged with just his head sticking up.

have to say all collie crosses i saw were Borders.

Ive been more a lover of Bedlington crosses, have to say all the collie crosses i did see had good feet, if i was going down that line i would prefer Collie X Greyhound X Whippet X Greyhound, but i just like dogs with a bit of whippet in them.

Edited January 7, 2012 by Country Joe

[turkish 298]

Do yous lads think the beardie cross make better cross for foxes than the border collie. Have to say I like actouch of collie in lurcher gives them bit of intelligence.

[paulus 26]

a touch of collie in any lurcher carnt be a bad thing, ive seen hancock 1st cross that likes to hunt up and chase but thats as far as it would go, would pick a rabbit up,drop it bark at it and chase again

[breeze 1,381]

AND SOME OF THE BEST TOO so put your pitch forks down,hello and welcom to my chat ive owned collie x in the past some out of a srain line bred some ive bred myself some ive just bought in or had given and to say all been very different would be a understament my first was a beardy border x a true hard grafter 100% game and loyal the next was border collie x SPEN out of DAVID JAMES strain line bred to NIXONS DRUM very obiedent good all rounder not game but a best mate. then ive had its half sister out of same bitch to a HANCOCK DOG out of RUFUS a total load of rubbish this dog wouldnt pick up a rabbit ive seen noted hare killers like BRIAN ELLIS FLY racey and sleek then the mother to my SPEN a ugly mongrel looking thing that would never win a show but the best dog ive ever seen flatten hares turn foxes inside out rabbits live to hand run and run but ive seen a few of late that only run as many as they want then give in and stand and look at you. back in my day it was collie x and they was the big thing all your so called lurcher elite had em and many a book has been wrote starring these dogs and people Ive had a look around on here and have seen theres some good articles from people who realy know there stuff this article is to draw you out whos breeding good stuff or who has a good stud dog like ive said ive seen the good the bad and the ugly whats your thoughts

 

Stick some picture's up mate . . . Got an interest in the Collie Grey's myself, and had a bitch from a meeting of a David James bitch by Nixon's Drum

[frankel 2,123]

Love them hate them whatever, theres a certain something in a collie lurcher which personaly I gel with, some folk don,t though, good and bad in every breed though

i agreee... I love mine most genuine and hard working lurcher i have had and seen work.

[socks 32,253]

Tegan my first cross collie bitch has been a very hard working and loyal bitch over the last 6 years and will do everything and take everything I ask of her. If you get a good first cross collie then you can't go wrong. They obviously not going to be out and out hare dogs but they will be fantastic all rounders and a brilliant starting base for a lurcher line.

[morton 5,369]

Ive had numerous Collie bred lurchers and can say in all honesty ive never yet owned a duff one,but i know the pitfalls of a Collie brained lurcher and have learnt to adapt to each individual,there is no other lurcher base that offers as much to the working lurcher.I prefer the addition of Deerhound blood to the mix as one seems to compliment the attributes of the other,in the right balance.When i hear stories of failed dogs i am more inclined to go for the failings of the owner,Collie bred dogs will not always suit the temperament of an owner without a certain amount of patience and an ability to harness the uniqueness of the breed.

[KittleRox 2,147]

Two things stand out for me as to why a collie saturated dog will be any good or a failure, the type of collie used in the first place, steer clear of nervous types, go for hard working steady type animals

 

and also the man behind the dog as any mistakes made during training can feck a collie type right up