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you'd think skycat was the first person to ever cross an airedale listening to some of them wouldn't you!

if you think they would be usefull as a cross and stated you would of taken one then why spout out all this shit ,and why not say it in the previous thread when penny announced the litter?

I know Rob, I'm terribly ashamed But hey, but I'm raking all that cash in from writing articles about them! And as anyone knows who has written for the CMW, you get ever so rich writing articles

Get your self an old Greyhound bitch, or a young fighter, or one that can't make it on the track,and mate it with an Airdale, your neighbours dog will do ! Then advertise the pups on the web, they'll sell well !! Of course.I'm being sarcastic !! Skycats litter were an ACCIDENTAL MATING !!

 

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Get your self an old Greyhound bitch, or a young fighter, or one that can't make it on the track,and mate it with an Airdale, your neighbours dog will do ! Then advertise the pups on the web, they'll sell well !! Of course.I'm being sarcastic !! Skycats litter were an ACCIDENTAL MATING !!

 

Cheers.

whats yer point :hmm:

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Get your self an old Greyhound bitch, or a young fighter, or one that can't make it on the track,and mate it with an Airdale, your neighbours dog will do ! Then advertise the pups on the web, they'll sell well !! Of course.I'm being sarcastic !! Skycats litter were an ACCIDENTAL MATING !!

 

Cheers.

 

read what he said. he wants to know how the airedale terriers prey drive is. didn't mention breeding.

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Get your self an old Greyhound bitch, or a young fighter, or one that can't make it on the track,and mate it with an Airdale, your neighbours dog will do ! Then advertise the pups on the web, they'll sell well !! Of course.I'm being sarcastic !! Skycats litter were an ACCIDENTAL MATING !!

 

Cheers.

 

read what he said. he wants to know how the airedale terriers prey drive is. didn't mention breeding.

 

Read what I said ..... I was being SARCASTIC !! If you don't know what that means....Google it !

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Get your self an old Greyhound bitch, or a young fighter, or one that can't make it on the track,and mate it with an Airdale, your neighbours dog will do ! Then advertise the pups on the web, they'll sell well !! Of course.I'm being sarcastic !! Skycats litter were an ACCIDENTAL MATING !!

 

Cheers.

 

read what he said. he wants to know how the airedale terriers prey drive is. didn't mention breeding.

 

Read what I said ..... I was being SARCASTIC !! If you don't know what that means....Google it !

 

i know well what it means, but your sarcastic remarks didn't make sense or have any relevence to the question asked.

why not try answering questions with a genuine response from time to time.

 

to answer the original question, i've seen 1 airedale that was interested in hunting, the owner has 5 airedales, and few lurchers. dogs all had the chance to show their minerals, but only 1 bitch showed interest. and at that it was only interested in thinks that didnt bite.

also have to say, they are quite expensive, around £400+

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Get your self an old Greyhound bitch, or a young fighter, or one that can't make it on the track,and mate it with an Airdale, your neighbours dog will do ! Then advertise the pups on the web, they'll sell well !! Of course.I'm being sarcastic !! Skycats litter were an ACCIDENTAL MATING !!

 

Cheers.

 

read what he said. he wants to know how the airedale terriers prey drive is. didn't mention breeding.

 

Read what I said ..... I was being SARCASTIC !! If you don't know what that means....Google it !

 

i know well what it means, but your sarcastic remarks didn't make sense or have any relevence to the question asked.

why not try answering questions with a genuine response from time to time.

 

to answer the original question, i've seen 1 airedale that was interested in hunting, the owner has 5 airedales, and few lurchers. dogs all had the chance to show their minerals, but only 1 bitch showed interest. and at that it was only interested in thinks that didnt bite.

also have to say, they are quite expensive, around £400+

 

Fair enough mate, but what annoys me is when a well known and respected Lurcher owner, breeder, writer has an ACCIDENTAL MATING, the result is idiots thinking this will be a good cross !! Penny should come on and tell everyone this wasn't a planned mating ! I wish her and the pups the very best, but I think if she wanted to keep the litter, she should have waited until they did, or didn't do the job, before talking about them ! There are to many people who will try this cross simply because Skycat has them; and may well end up being dissapointed !

 

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not interested in breeding as they is enough pups about what i was after is information regarding the airedale as a terrier not as a lurcher mix i did want to know on how they do bushing rabbit and fox and a bit of ratting i only ask because i dont want a terrier going to ground but i do like it to have some balls and be willing to push out a fox or reluctant deer to the guns or lurchers if its not the right sort i will not pursue it but ask for info on other breeds that will work along side the lurchers

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Get your self an old Greyhound bitch, or a young fighter, or one that can't make it on the track,and mate it with an Airdale, your neighbours dog will do ! Then advertise the pups on the web, they'll sell well !! Of course.I'm being sarcastic !! Skycats litter were an ACCIDENTAL MATING !!

 

Cheers.

 

read what he said. he wants to know how the airedale terriers prey drive is. didn't mention breeding.

 

Read what I said ..... I was being SARCASTIC !! If you don't know what that means....Google it !

 

i know well what it means, but your sarcastic remarks didn't make sense or have any relevence to the question asked.

why not try answering questions with a genuine response from time to time.

 

to answer the original question, i've seen 1 airedale that was interested in hunting, the owner has 5 airedales, and few lurchers. dogs all had the chance to show their minerals, but only 1 bitch showed interest. and at that it was only interested in thinks that didnt bite.

also have to say, they are quite expensive, around £400+

 

Fair enough mate, but what annoys me is when a well known and respected Lurcher owner, breeder, writer has an ACCIDENTAL MATING, the result is idiots thinking this will be a good cross !! Penny should come on and tell everyone this wasn't a planned mating ! I wish her and the pups the very best, but I think if she wanted to keep the litter, she should have waited until they did, or didn't do the job, before talking about them ! There are to many people who will try this cross simply because Skycat has them; and may well end up being dissapointed !

 

Cheers.

I think you,ll find she has stated a few times it was accidental, as for writing about them before they are proven I can,t see the problem, a few folk are genuinely interested how the pups come on and have asked her to give updates, if folk try the x just because Penny has them thats up to them, some may be disappointed, some may be surprised, trial and error mate, moving forward whether successful or otherwise :thumbs:

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maybe not the best section and more for skycat and others but was wondering whats the prey drive like on this terrier with regards helping out the lurchers bushing and general mooching

had one years ago couldn't fault it it would do anything you wanted and had a cracking nose on it its down to how you bring them up most are laid back i ran mine from a pup with the lurcher had a litter from it and every one that had a pup ranted on how good they were same they all dead now

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I can't speak for English bred Airedales as I've never seen one working. I can only speak from my own experience with the Redline Airedale I've got which was bred in this country from imported stock.

 

Imagine a very sensible and steady Spaniel> that is similar, but not quite the same, to the way she works. By this I mean that from the moment she leaves the van/house, she is working, looking for stuff. Whilst she is out she has no 'off switch'. I can call her up to me, walk her to heel, even throw tennis balls for her to retrieve if there's nothing to hunt or if we are somewhere where there is no game, but her only real mission in life is to find stuff.She hunts anything with a pulse, but obviously prefers more challenging quarry given the choice.

 

I have taken her beating a few times: not many as I don't really go beating at the moment (too much else to do) and she did well, finding birds easily, and even worked a flight pond well, finding hidden ducks under the brambles around the pond margins, and also found a pricked bird which was hiding deep in the reeds and retrieved it to hand really nicely.

 

She kills vermin quickly, and is totally focused on a dig.

 

I can't really say anything negative about her at all, apart from the fact that she is of the shorter, stockier type (the Redline type) so she's not exactly fast and wouldn't be able to catch anything faster than a myxie rabbit on her own, unless it was sitting in cover. But then again, I didn't get her for her running speed!

 

To me, her drive is what I'd expect from a good terrier: but there's also a hound like quality in there, plus she's also a really nice dog to have around, great with other dogs, works well solo or as part of a team, good retriever and a good guard dog as well as being very biddable. OK, so she can't push right under tight brambles like a small terrier, but she'll have a damn good try LOL

 

Whilst I was writing the above, I've just seen your latest reply C: I have always said that this mating was accidental, but I don't see why I should have kept quiet about the pups because of that. I honestly believe, from what I've seen and heard (from other people who used to use Airedale crosses back in the 50s in this country, and people who have put Airedale into their staghounds in the States) that a dash of the RIGHT SORT OF AIREDALE is not a bad thing in a running dog. But I'd never have wanted to use an English show bred Airedale to create a lurchers.

 

I have been told that some English bred Airedales are used for picking up on shoots: I was told this, I don't know this for certain, but any dog that will retrieve can be used for picking up if trained right. I've seen Collies and GSDs picking up on shoots. That ability alone wouldn't make me want to use a show bred dog.

 

I don't think for one moment that people want to breed Airedale lurchers because I had a litter: I think that people are just curious about a breed which is no longer worked in this country, when it is still worked in the USA. But they're not a common working dog over there at all, and as any of the working Airedale owners will tell you, they can't hold a candle to the purpose bred hunting hounds, curs, Plotts etc which have been refined and bred over the years for certain types of hunting.

 

Most hunters use them alongside other types of hound, or they are 'hobby' hunters who like to tree a few bear or lion (cougar) each year, hunt raccoons and possums and generally enjoy getting out in the wild with their dog and hunting whatever comes along. I believe that most people who keep and work Airedales do so because they really like the dogs, their characters, their ability to multi task etc, not because they are the only dog that can do a certain job.

 

I'm pleasantly surprised with my pups, but they wouldn't be for everyone: and of course they've hardly been tested as yet. Certainly the fact that they are crossed with Saluki/Grey makes them very different from Airedale cross straight Greyhounds. They are far more sensitive than you might expect, and needed careful handling whilst growing up. They don't 'do' obedience stuff for the sake of it, and they are very driven to hunt......... all the time: they have that 'self employed' need in them, and if I'd had these pups a time a long time ago when I was more dominant towards my dogs, wanting dogs which jumped the moment I said jump, these pups would have had me tearing my hair out.

 

So they've caught a few rabbits on the lamp, seem to handle themselves out ferreting, but they're not doing anything any other lurcher of the same age wouldn't do. Yes, they've got great noses, and they're very driven, but so is their sire, the Saluki lurcher. A lot of it is how they are brought up: he will hunt pheasant in cover, air scent for munties in brambles and mark anything in cover. Most Saluki types don't get the opportunity to work loose and learn these skills.

 

All I can say is that I really, really like them: I like their attitude, their work ethic, and the fact that they seem to have a good mix of independence and trainability, but that's just how I find them: I gell with them, and that's all that counts for me. I can't say how good they're going to be yet, they've only just started working, but I like what I see so far.

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I can't speak for English bred Airedales as I've never seen one working. I can only speak from my own experience with the Redline Airedale I've got which was bred in this country from imported stock.

 

Imagine a very sensible and steady Spaniel> that is similar, but not quite the same, to the way she works. By this I mean that from the moment she leaves the van/house, she is working, looking for stuff. Whilst she is out she has no 'off switch'. I can call her up to me, walk her to heel, even throw tennis balls for her to retrieve if there's nothing to hunt or if we are somewhere where there is no game, but her only real mission in life is to find stuff.She hunts anything with a pulse, but obviously prefers more challenging quarry given the choice.

 

I have taken her beating a few times: not many as I don't really go beating at the moment (too much else to do) and she did well, finding birds easily, and even worked a flight pond well, finding hidden ducks under the brambles around the pond margins, and also found a pricked bird which was hiding deep in the reeds and retrieved it to hand really nicely.

 

She kills vermin quickly, and is totally focused on a dig.

 

I can't really say anything negative about her at all, apart from the fact that she is of the shorter, stockier type (the Redline type) so she's not exactly fast and wouldn't be able to catch anything faster than a myxie rabbit on her own, unless it was sitting in cover. But then again, I didn't get her for her running speed!

 

To me, her drive is what I'd expect from a good terrier: but there's also a hound like quality in there, plus she's also a really nice dog to have around, great with other dogs, works well solo or as part of a team, good retriever and a good guard dog as well as being very biddable. OK, so she can't push right under tight brambles like a small terrier, but she'll have a damn good try LOL

 

Whilst I was writing the above, I've just seen your latest reply C: I have always said that this mating was accidental, but I don't see why I should have kept quiet about the pups because of that. I honestly believe, from what I've seen and heard (from other people who used to use Airedale crosses back in the 50s in this country, and people who have put Airedale into their staghounds in the States) that a dash of the RIGHT SORT OF AIREDALE is not a bad thing in a running dog. But I'd never have wanted to use an English show bred Airedale to create a lurchers.

 

I have been told that some English bred Airedales are used for picking up on shoots: I was told this, I don't know this for certain, but any dog that will retrieve can be used for picking up if trained right. I've seen Collies and GSDs picking up on shoots. That ability alone wouldn't make me want to use a show bred dog.

 

I don't think for one moment that people want to breed Airedale lurchers because I had a litter: I think that people are just curious about a breed which is no longer worked in this country, when it is still worked in the USA. But they're not a common working dog over there at all, and as any of the working Airedale owners will tell you, they can't hold a candle to the purpose bred hunting hounds, curs, Plotts etc which have been refined and bred over the years for certain types of hunting.

 

Most hunters use them alongside other types of hound, or they are 'hobby' hunters who like to tree a few bear or lion (cougar) each year, hunt raccoons and possums and generally enjoy getting out in the wild with their dog and hunting whatever comes along. I believe that most people who keep and work Airedales do so because they really like the dogs, their characters, their ability to multi task etc, not because they are the only dog that can do a certain job.

 

I'm pleasantly surprised with my pups, but they wouldn't be for everyone: and of course they've hardly been tested as yet. Certainly the fact that they are crossed with Saluki/Grey makes them very different from Airedale cross straight Greyhounds. They are far more sensitive than you might expect, and needed careful handling whilst growing up. They don't 'do' obedience stuff for the sake of it, and they are very driven to hunt......... all the time: they have that 'self employed' need in them, and if I'd had these pups a time a long time ago when I was more dominant towards my dogs, wanting dogs which jumped the moment I said jump, these pups would have had me tearing my hair out.

 

So they've caught a few rabbits on the lamp, seem to handle themselves out ferreting, but they're not doing anything any other lurcher of the same age wouldn't do. Yes, they've got great noses, and they're very driven, but so is their sire, the Saluki lurcher. A lot of it is how they are brought up: he will hunt pheasant in cover, air scent for munties in brambles and mark anything in cover. Most Saluki types don't get the opportunity to work loose and learn these skills.

 

All I can say is that I really, really like them: I like their attitude, their work ethic, and the fact that they seem to have a good mix of independence and trainability, but that's just how I find them: I gell with them, and that's all that counts for me. I can't say how good they're going to be yet, they've only just started working, but I like what I see so far.

 

You should be a politician,Penny !! LOL !! Many words not actaly saying anything !!.... OK , I'll drop it, but what do I say to the people who are PM'ing saying that you told them it was a PLANNED mating ? Whatever we say, you are listened to and read, so you have a responsibility, weather you want it or not !

 

Cheers.

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