Students Rioting

[Deano7 22]

The total of police, damage and anything else should be deducted from student funding they need to get a dog & get a life

[Nik_B 3,791]

If the students are going to have to pay the real cost of their education will i get a tax rebate.........i doubt it?

 

Funny how England can have fees but Scotland doesn't? I never went to uni but believe that we should pay for it from our tax and students shouldn't be saddled with debt. Most kids from lower working classes will be put off whilst the middle classes and above will still go on their gap years and 3yr jollys before landing good jobs through the old boy networks. Yes dump the stupid courses and concentrate on those that will give our kids the edge. Poor education means poor prospects for the country.

 

If the country's finances are so f****d stop overseas aid, stop taking in aslyum seekers (economic migrants), bring our troops home and put them on our borders. When my moneys tight i dont give to any old charity, i dont feed and house freeloaders and i wouldn't travel round the world to meddle in others affairs whislt my own house is being plundered.

 

The problem is that Labour were spending money they didn't have for years and years. We wont get a rebate because we've got to pay off their rediculous debts that are in the trillions...possibly as much as 7 trillion which is horrifying! They have to reduce spending below what the country is making to reduce not only the deficit but the debt accumulated. I agree on equality throughout the different countries of the UK but it isn't going to happen. Totally agree on reducing out spending on eu, immigration, wars etc.

 

I still think the poorer families wont suffer as baddly though. It's the middle classes who will get hammered by this. They will increase the maintenace grant by a bit and increase the number of bursaries etc as well. They wont have to pay anything off unless they earn more than 25 grand and after 30 years it will be written off if they never achieve that. If someone from a working class background works hard and goes to uni to study to be a lawyer and then gets a good job it wont make any difference, they will be in the same boat as anyone else. The tuition fees aren't paid upfront, you borrow the money and then pay it back afterwards. My wife and I had to do this and we've just finished paying them off, she's 42 and I am 38. It's been tough as we had kids when we were studying but worth it in the end. I'm miles better off from going to uni and even if the fees were double what I paid I would still be better off. We get top class education and we shouldn't expect the average man to fork out for it.

 

Over the years there has been too much emphasis on university as if it is somehow necessary to get a job. Too many kids have been conned (by advertising) (or pushed by parents) into going to uni without thinking about what job it will get them. Time for them to grow up a bit and put more thought in to why they want to go and to work as hard as possible. There are alot of good honest and well paying jobs to be had by young people who aren't afraid of hard work.

[Keeps 403]

Good pos NikB, hit the nail on the head

It is my understanding that there will be scholarships/additional help for less well off students, where Universities decide to charge above the capped rate set by the Government.

[foxfan 479]

Those that think that all the cuts are about paying off the debt had better wake up, and fast.

[Malt 379]

Those that think that all the cuts are about paying off the debt had better wake up, and fast.

 

[Ideation 8,217]

I know you going to think i'm stupid, but i reckon there is something fishy about this. I think its possible (not saying certain) that the government did very little to back those police up on the day, opening the door for the students to cause a massive seen and thus cause a massive turn in opinion against them. Not sure if it worked or not? Food for thought anyway.

[lanesra 4,007]

What most people don't realise is that it was the Labour government that set the ball rolling to bring this about. The Higher Education Funding Council for England (known as HEFCE) have always "topped up" the student fees to cover the real teaching costs involved for each University student. In March 2010 (whilst labour were still in power pretending that they supported Education - remember B LIARS "Education Education Education" promise) it was announced that this funding was to be withdrawn - Universities and Further Education Colleges have been in a panic about it since then, offering voluntary and in some cases involuntary redundancies to their staff... I work in a University and know that staffing has been dramatically cut. For those that don't believe it the proof is here.

 

http://www.hefce.ac.uk/news/HEFCE/2010/tfund.htm

 

We are all suffering now from Labours years and years of overspending, and it is a fact that the countries finances have always been in better order under a Conservative government.

 

Students are protesting about the fact that they will have to pay the real costs involved in teaching them at University level from 2012, and not the previously subsidised cost (which up to now has been borne by you and I, the taxpayer).

 

Edited to add: Chinese students pay full costs involved in their teaching, and currently subsidise the home students fees - so its hardly surprising that they are being targeted in the current climate.

labour might off started the ball rolling, but the present lot gave false promises , all off them are FECKIN DECIETFUL AND ROTTEN TOO THE CORE WITH CORRUPTION !!!!! 3 MPS TODAY LOST THERE APPEAL FOR CHARGES OFF CORRUPTION TO BE DROPPED BECAUSE THEY WHERE MPS WHILE FIDDLING THERE EXPENSES ~ FECKIN UNREAL ~ THANK GOD FOR COMMON SENSE THERE APPEAL WAS SLUNG OUT !

 

Nice one, your first statement was utterly pulled apart, so you got on some mindless rant that has no relevance to the original topic.

I'll get your coat lol

no relevance i think it does , this all boils down too false promises by M.P'S. YET AGAIN, its ok for us too come on here slaggin them off for what they are doing/trying to do to us where our dogs are concerned but when others are decieved its ok is it , as ive said i dont condone them roiting but they feel they have been fukced over so they have stood up for there believes whether we agree or not,2nd mindless rant over

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

The students have been sold down the river...promised 1 thing..but delivered another...good on em (the students)i say

 

I agree, I think what the students done is good, and I hope what they done encourages more rioting by others!

 

The government say one thing and do another, they tell lies, cheat, steal and then try and place the focus on other things to take the heat off themselves. F*ck em all up there! The people ain't happy!

[Wxm 1,638]

i think the students have the r1te idea ... you think if a % of these students cant afford a course then they wont be able to become the lawyer, nurse, doctor or so on and well have more cheap paki labour coming in cause they will get there degrees of the back of a coco pops box

 

 

NO SURRENDER FELLA'S STAND FOR WHAT YOU BELIVE IN !!!

[romany52 313]

It should be remembered that these students won't even be affected by the changes, they stuck their necks out for others. A great pity we don't see more doing the same, instead of this, I'm alight jack, attitude.

[Bulldogman 55]

i think the students have the r1te idea ... you think if a % of these students cant afford a course then they wont be able to become the lawyer, nurse, doctor or so on and well have more cheap paki labour coming in cause they will get there degrees of the back of a coco pops box

 

 

NO SURRENDER FELLA'S STAND FOR WHAT YOU BELIVE IN !!!

[RicW 67]

I know you going to think i'm stupid, but i reckon there is something fishy about this. I think its possible (not saying certain) that the government did very little to back those police up on the day, opening the door for the students to cause a massive seen and thus cause a massive turn in opinion against them. Not sure if it worked or not? Food for thought anyway.

 

You are bang on the nail. I have been on three demos which ended in major riots. The Met kicked off all three by sending mounted troops, sorry policemen, against peaceful marchers. The idea is just as you say, to turn public opinion against the cause the marchers are supporting.

Ric

[artic 595]

What those children did was disgracful, and they will be seen to no doubt.

 

All that carnage has not solved anything, and it will not change anything.

 

Pay for your education, it's never been free and never will.

 

All you students can hate me, disagree with me, I don't have children as friends.

 

Ban all student grants I say.