Guest busterdog Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 The most over rated, over used piece of kit. Lads spend small fortunes on finders and never bother their arses learning how to use them and then depend on a piece of steel that in most cases only hinders a terrier at his work. more shit A T- bar is not used for digging, just locating the tube(s). They are invaluable for ferretting when you have several ferrets to ground and not all collared up. On bigger quarry, its nice to know what you are gonna be digging through (especially on the moor where there are massive granite boulders below the surface a lot of the time. Sometimes when you get down a few feet there are lots of tubes, (especially in old rabbit places) and it's handy to know which direction they go. Mine cost a fiver from the local blacksmith. It's just a bit of concrete reinforcing rod ground and welded together. Don't always use it but always take it. As the old saying goes " It's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it" Cheers, D. It all depends on what you digging through, i have to use a bar as nothing else comes close to the mark whilst your digging through sandstone or sand and gravel. As already said theres times when the box will pick up 0.3 just about everywhere and given a choice i'de sooner use a bar to find the tube than take the sides in. I personaly never go without one, i can't say i carry it everywher but it's always in the van. Quote Link to post
Butler 396 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 I don't use a "T" bar as such but i do have a digging bar with a chisel end for the stiff places It has proved it's worth more than once and has been missed on the odd occasion that it has been needed and not been in the motor. Quote Link to post
Guest busterdog Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 I don't use a "T" bar as such but i do have a digging bar with a chisel end for the stiff places It has proved it's worth more than once and has been missed on the odd occasion that it has been needed and not been in the motor. Same thing B, didn't put that in my reply, i don't have a T bar just a big nasty chisel ended wrecking bar. Quote Link to post
Guest AngelicAcid Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 any pics of theses bars, as i did want something that could be used as both. Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,536 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 any pics of theses bars, as i did want something that could be used as both. Totally different tools mate. T bar, thin, pointy, flexible. Hence the T on the top for turning to "probe". Digging bar, maybe 4-6 ft long, several times thicker, possibly octagonal for strength, pointy ish at one end. Bang it in, twist around, lever, break up shale, etc etc. Difference is like the diffence between an axe and a scalpel if you get my drift. Cheers, D. Quote Link to post
Guest AngelicAcid Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 yeah mate a know that, just be handy as owt if you could incorporate the 2 into 1 if you get me drifter. Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Thread tidied. Any personal disputes please use pm. The whole world can watch lads. Good hunting JD Quote Link to post
Guest busterdog Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 yeah mate a know that, just be handy as owt if you could incorporate the 2 into 1 if you get me drifter. Don't see the difference, it's just what your used to and in good hands a big wrecking bar is as gentle as a small Tbar. Quote Link to post
Guest AngelicAcid Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Any pics of the bars then? Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 yeah mate a know that, just be handy as owt if you could incorporate the 2 into 1 if you get me drifter. Don't see the difference, it's just what your used to and in good hands a big wrecking bar is as gentle as a small Tbar. very true. Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,536 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Thats like saying an axe is just the same as a scalpel in the right hands. Total Shite. T-Bar is an instrument, big bar is a tool. Horses for courses. ATB. D. Quote Link to post
Butler 396 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 yeah mate a know that, just be handy as owt if you could incorporate the 2 into 1 if you get me drifter. Don't see the difference, it's just what your used to and in good hands a big wrecking bar is as gentle as a small Tbar. Same here mine is used for digging, finding a tube when needed or tieing a pup to if nothing else is available. Ask young "B" next time you speak he'd never seen one used till out with mine it's the first thing he asks now "is the bar in" lol. Quote Link to post
tripodcrest 4 Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 the t bar as i remember was used before locaters were made they were shoved into the ground till it was solid then you put your ear to the bar and listen to the dog baying bumping or making contact with its game by moveing and listening you pinpoint your dog at the loudest point then drop your hole Quote Link to post
Guest busterdog Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 <BR>Thats like saying an axe is just the same as a scalpel in the right hands.<BR>Total Shite. <IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt= src="http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbdown.gif"> <BR>T-Bar is an instrument, big bar is a tool. <BR>Horses for courses.<BR>ATB. D.<BR><BR><BR><BR>My mistake, i must of been doing it wrong for all these years. Sorry for the shite talk ( i'm just winging it ) haven't realy got a clue. Quote Link to post
slingshot82 32 Posted August 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Ive only seen 2 lengths quoted,36" and 48" if you dont know how to find a terrier working a fox at that depth without shoving a bar in youre either deaf or have no sense of feeling in your body,never needed one. Im sure nobody would need to probe at 3-4' its obviously so you can probe while standing. Kyle That makes about as much sense as Alexi Sayle,you push and it gets shorter mate or you arent fukin using it at all But wtf do i know? I would be using it with a locator, and probably just the last 18" to a foot, so I would still be able to stand. Kyle Quote Link to post
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