Rabbits alive in Snare .. ?

[Matt 160]

i dont like the stretch as i used to use it and it not always work. but the hand chop has never faild me. you can always brake the neak after the chop .

 

How can the stretch not work? You keep stretching until you feel a 'gap' in the neck.

 

The 'chop' is a very ineffective and inhumane method in my opinion, and certainly not a way for a novice to try.

[ellir0305 9]

i dont like the stretch as i used to use it and it not always work. but the hand chop has never faild me. you can always brake the neak after the chop .

 

How can the stretch not work? You keep stretching until you feel a 'gap' in the neck.

 

The 'chop' is a very ineffective and inhumane method in my opinion, and certainly not a way for a novice to try.

 

i made the same point matt, i think that from a novice point of veiw which i am relatively having only been in this game for a year or so, the easiest method by far to learn was streching, then chinning.

 

if i were to use a priest for a rabbit in a net i would still neck/chin it afterwards to make sure it wasnt just stunned.

 

is there any way someone with a video camera could make up a pinned article with these methods of dispatch on with advantages and disadvantages of all of them as well as a step by step guide because the amount of people that ask this (on ferreting as well) is quite large

 

atb with the snaring new2this and i hope you get over your dislike and lack of knowledge of dispatching.

 

respect for the quarry comes first

[comanche 2,799]

Don't know if any one can understand this but it might help . As so many peoplle have already said ,practice on a dead one first .

First take your rabbit by the back legs . Then grasp its head as in fig 1. Them turn your fist (the one holding the head) at right angles to the body . Stretch the spine by holding the back legs firm & pulling the head downwards.

 

No strength is needed . You are just firmly overstretching the spine by about an inch and because the head is already bent backwards creating a weak point that is where it breaks . This can be done in a split second and is by far the preffered method of despatch as not only is it quick and humane but the carcase bleeds into the neck cavity and the head is already severed when the body is skinned .

The attachment shows line drawings of how to do it Hope this is some help .

Edited October 21, 2009 by comanche

[heritage 202]

whats with all this talk of karate chopping ? neck stretching is a good method but its not always possible and can be a little slow, dont people " chin " rabbits anymore.

[jac 12]

i had some problem with neaking a young rabbitt , herd the crack but the thing got up again. i use the wack on the head . not had a problem with it . works every time for me.

[New2This 0]

is there any way someone with a video camera could make up a pinned article with these methods of dispatch on with advantages and disadvantages of all of them as well as a step by step guide because the amount of people that ask this (on ferreting as well) is quite large

 

This would be useful and much appreciated, but im sure like almost everything else, this process is figured out with practice.

 

I am grateful for the information about the 'stretch' as i had no idea about it before this topic. Thanks you.

 

 

i hope you get over your dislike and lack of knowledge of dispatching.

 

Thanks much, im sure over time, once i get a good method i wont mind as much.

 

Stretch the spine by holding the back legs firm & pulling the head downwards.

when holding the legs and the head back, would you 'push' the head downwards keeping most pressure on the neck .. or 'Pull' it downwards ... Or is pulling/pushing essentially the same thing? or only use Pull instead of push

 

I'll try this method very soon as i have one in the fridge

 

Ty

Edited October 22, 2009 by New2This

[ellir0305 9]

pull the legs upwards slightly and push the head downwards at the same time. if you know anyone else who shoots or hunts get them to show you as this is easier and practice on dead ones

[New2This 0]

i dont know anyone who does this technique and 99% of the time i go into the woods by myself

 

but today i got a rabbit, dead in the snare, so just now i tried this

 

I think i focused to much on the neck itself (instead of the connection at the Base of the skull), felt it stretch and crack a little ... i think i did this wrong

 

Still wont try on a live one

 

Next one i'll focus the pressure more at the Base of the skull/neck connection (i did feel a gap there but not sure if its suppose to be there or if it happened on 2nd pull)

 

Hopefully tomorrow i'll get 1 or 2 dead ones to try again on

 

Thanks again for the assistance and information, Greatly appreciated and hopefully this post has helped someone else also, other then myself

 

Thanks again

[ellir0305 9]

can i ask what you are currently doing with the live ones?

[comanche 2,799]

i dont know anyone who does this technique and 99% of the time i go into the woods by myself

 

but today i got a rabbit, dead in the snare, so just now i tried this

 

I think i focused to much on the neck itself (instead of the connection at the Base of the skull), felt it stretch and crack a little ... i think i did this wrong

 

Still wont try on a live one

 

Next one i'll focus the pressure more at the Base of the skull/neck connection (i did feel a gap there but not sure if its suppose to be there or if it happened on 2nd pull)

 

Hopefully tomorrow i'll get 1 or 2 dead ones to try again on

 

Thanks again for the assistance and information, Greatly appreciated and hopefully this post has helped someone else also, other then myself

 

Thanks again

If you're not sure about the gap being "right" skin the rabbit and you will find out if you have successfully broken the neck or not . The bones will be disconected with just bloody flesh holding the head to the body.

Edited October 22, 2009 by comanche

[watson 1]

this might sound really bad but to start with i used to put the rabbits head under my foot and then pull its back legs. its not too humane but it gets your confidents up because your not really touching it. touching the head usually spooks amateurs. now im fine with it i preffer killing them myself because then you know how long it has been dead for and it is fresh.

[New2This 0]

can i ask what you are currently doing with the live ones?

 

i've tried to let one go, but it was damaged so I decided not to let it limp around in the woods suffering and eventually eaten

 

the first one was in the snare just sitting there and i hit it over the head with the back of a hatchet and it ended up jumping around and strangling itself. This was my first kill so i kinda felt bad for hitting it

 

2nd one, i tried to let it go. but ended up trying the 'chop' method with the hatchet. (my friend whos a hunter told me about it, he works to support a family so he cant go with me everyday((i check my snares once a day)) and it didnt go as well as i had i pictured in my head but it died.

 

So i decided to come here and ask for a better solution as I want to snare all winter and im sure there will be more live rabbits, which i'd rather not want them to suffer badly

 

Just trying to better my skills by asking questions to do the most responsible/humane thing. (i've only been snaring for little over 2 weeks since the season opened)

 

Thanks again

Edited October 22, 2009 by New2This

[martync1967 64]

hold the back legs and with your free hand take hold of the head and pull away from the legs until you feel the head dislocate from the neck

[Matt 160]

You pull the head, not the neck.

 

Hope that helps.

[froese11 1]

Hey new2this what part of canada are you from?