Well looks as tho I'm gonna have to spend some money and stock up on some kit! Hit a stroke of luck while walking my pup this evening, walked down an old bridle way down the side of some common ground and was greeted by a farmer looking for his dog, anyway we got chatting and as luck would have it he's absolutly riddled with rabbits (so he says) so jumped at the oppertunity and asked for the permision which I jumped atb only a small farm of around 60 acres but look like I've got a nice bit of ferreting to come in the next few weeks! Just need to get a ferret now lol! thanks for reading