I no where everyone is coming from and I appreciate any advise or concerns, but everyone was young once and don't get me wrong I'm sensible about it I don't just go out shooting willy nilly, I've just set up targets in the back garden ( I live in the countryside and back garden leads onto fields so nothing to worry about in the respects of loose pellets hitting anything) and have had a go at sighting and it was easier than I thought...I tried the 2p method on a4 and withing 8 shots had it pretty bang on, so for the sort of shooting I'm doing atm which is targets and the odd woody or feral and