his early stuff was decent,but the stuff he breeds now is a gamble,nothing has been out the yard for 20yrs,the dogs are kept in shit conditions and why take the chance on a second rate dog when you can buy off a worker to worker,you lads that had good collie/grey crosses are living in the past and only remember the halcyon days when the dogs where tested properly,I myself owned dogs off fathom,merle,chuckles and tested them to the full on all quarry,but the dogs he breeds now are not in the same class,I'm sorry but its all about money now,wirralman
i have to agree, why don't you buy a pup fro