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What would you class as a game dog? and why would they be on the other side of the pond and not this? So your saying its impossible to have game dogs here because we dont have the stuff to test them? Id go as far as saying, your the one who hasnt got a clue, sorry
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I know what your saying Dan, but im talking about GAME dogs here ok (not mine). Now, I work running dogs myself have done all my life of various breeding. I enter them based on the individual dog, I try to show them a good taste of what their life will be about by about 10-12 months old, after this first time I will decide wether or not the dog will need holding back or seeing a bit more. I run various game, and like an all round lurcher, some fail to make my standard, but im prepared to wait until 2 possibly even 3 for the finished article if I belive its in the dog. I wouldnt call any of my
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ok, what about the dogs that would rather die trying? Like the game dogs of old lol surely this do or die attitude still literally exists? or do we no longer posses animals of that calibre? that thought aside, a keen lad I know his young dog saw far more than it should have at a young age between 7 and 12 months, however it showed the same keenness then as it does now but is not as reckless with it as the technique is there. dont think this dog would have jacked, could be wrong tho, was always given the time to heal. many a time it would disapear and return later or next day with serious
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I believe there are enough people working wheatens in Ireland/UK to keep them functioning properly into the future, as they saw a rise in popularity in recent times. they won their battle against the show lot, just, and scraped through the tough times in a diluted state, but their still here! Which is an achievement, as many strains of working dog have been lost forever.
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thats right, the blues and wheatens were pretty much the same breed at one time, and both became popular show dogs, like so many working breeds, but the blues suffered far worse. id say there are many far better options for a proposed litter of lurchers than using a snappy show dog that would have a higher chance of jibbing on tough quarry, than say a working bred terrier bred from proven lines. the blues and wheatens have always been a bit agro among other dogs, careful upbringing and handling is needed to avoid trouble... the greyhound in any mix will usually have a calming effe
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Crossing longdogs to game terriers for pest control is relatively new practice. If lines of kerry blue terriers existed today, that were well worked and tested, they would feature much more in todays pest controlling lurchers.
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update on saluki greyhound first cross pups
COSH replied to boyo's topic in Working Dogs & Livestock
Toppers Boyo, and credit to you those pups look like they are thriving... -
If you want to catch lots of game, the dog must jump
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Stewie has some fair points, i dont want to get involved here, but the blues from the past are long gone. however the wheatens and bulls are still doing the job today. Any serious lurcher/terrierman breeding a litter of lurchers would have opted for the game blood to come from proven lines. all tested animals. these dont exist with the blues today. imagine the wastage if these were to be tested.
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I agree with this ,dogs that are regularly aggressive to others are an unmitigated nuisance,and aggression towards other dogs has no bearing on their working ability. Two of the hardest most courageous dogs ,I have known ,[both from the Cumbria area ],owned by a very well know lurcherman], were completely chilled out and placid around other dogs,one of them , " Cougar", was a monster on Deer and Fox, had teeth like an alligator ,yet was a sweetheart in canine company,[unless attacked]. Its as though they know what they are capable of and dont need to keep posturing,and showing their teeth.On
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Id say origional staghound types go back to British/Irish running dog stock, and more than likely have no borzoi in them.
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they are good on the larger deer species, and were bred to be run in numbers of 3 or 4 on quarry like wolves where they were expected to keep the wolf pinned or at bay until killed by the huntsman (on horseback) or they sometimes dispatched themselves. their wasted on hares and other small game, most serious russian hare coursers run a type of pure greyhound, they dont seem keen on saluki crosses over there for some reason? not sure why that is?
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Joe ox. diging and lamping. It doest take an aggressive dog to be the victor of a kennel fight at all. All it takes is a dissagreement, and one dog to go the distance on the other. It could just as easy be the steady quiet type that would never bat an eyelid at a snarling dog at other times. Fact is it usually comes out of the blue, thats why it happens, because the owners dont expect it To shoot a dog because it kills another in a kennel fight, is wrong. Joe ox, your points about constantly aggressive dogs is fair enough, they are a nightmare, and I for one dont tollerate such behaviour, bu
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look a nice sort you keep, im sure over a good greyhound, grew or longdog cross it could produce handy lurchers. seen some handy beardy lurchers over the years
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exactly pal, horses for courses. i cant see any other breed of lurcher other than maybe a half wheaten, doing the job like a bull cross. i dont own one, but traditional lurchers wont hack the job of a proper bull cross. and if you think they can, you obviously have no idea how real bull crosses are worked and tested
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could it be to ground?
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to me its all about enjoying working whatever lurchers im keeping, i very rarely get rid of a dog, they are here for life, i find every dog has its own plus and minus points but this is what its all about for me, dont get me wrong, results matter to me, probably more than most, but as long as my dogs give their best, im more than happy.
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Ive also seen a brood of wild pheasants catch a vole, it was the hen that caught it, then every poult wanted a beak full
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I was about to call you for talking rubbish aswell matey! That is nonsense!
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That has a mighty head on it, and im sure it will be a cracker if ye find him after the rut
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Ive seen many a good lurcher that were keen on the foxes, but the most efficient and best by a mile was a half bred bull grey. Daytime hunting the fells, he could find a fox if it was on the hill wether it was to ground or lying up. Bolted, flushed from cover, on the lamp, ive never seen a more commited animal, and so efficient killing them the dog was looking for the next as it was dropping the dead fox from its mouth, it often hits them so hard and with such a powerful jaw that they didnt move again, stone dead. And though foxes were his bread and butter work, he liked other quarry too, cert
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I know lurchers today that have been bred lurcher to lurcher for forty years, the litters produce outststanding dogs every time, and very little in the way of waste.
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I will breed from a bitch of mine if I feel I need to, and that the mating will be successful. Ive had good pups from young and old alike, but iv got a line that suits me that ive always worked so i know whats coming through.
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is bear one of the dogs? Which one? did you get much (rabbits?)
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how far do you walk your dog on a regular day?
COSH replied to nightowl 169's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
nowt for a dog that pal, i bet there in good health. Id would love to be able to have the spare time to walk 15 mile a day with mine, but sadly iv got graft, and so mine get a run behind a vehicle/bike to save time. I used to be beating on the moors 6 days a week from 12 august until early december, the same dogs every day would cover 20+ miles no bother, over very rough terrain, working their socks off. And they could still do more, fit dogs are super athletes.