a good few years ago 2 mates of mine tramped this particular bit of land , any bits of stubble were scoured . nothing . a couple of other lads were passing in there car , stopped for a chin wag . they were stood for adout 10 mins and it was getting grey dark . then for no reason they started lifting in the field behind them :blink:i was talking to Robbie the other day and I reckon the winter solstice has some part to play .