at last some sense spoken but if you remember i was sticking up for you at the time am i right about your dog not getting a chance with other people slipping in on you, yours was a young dog,and i'm not dragging up old shit by saying that,and fair play to you you stood by your pals the same as i stood by bob, bobs a great dog lad and has been all his life and its people like him that showed me the way as a young lad, its a shame your not in contact anymore as he's moved to lincoln where he lives is a day man's dream, i do a lot of ferreting around cheshire but also have good lamping permission