that's the thing really isn't it about tattoo's bud, where it hurts someone in a certain area, someone else can handle it, but for me, the ribs was the worst pain ever, also, around the nipples is a bit nifty as well, my mate had one on his back years ago, he struggled so much with the outline he's never been back to have it finished, i think one of the horrible parts of the tattoo is washing it in the hottest water you can handle to scrub it clean once it's been finished, it's a short lived pain 10 -15 seconds, but boy...does it smart....