Thanks for that last post Moley.Theres some cracking snarers on this site isnt there Woodga?How do these clowns ever catch any big numbers of foxes using these rabbit sized loops set at the same height as a rabbit wire,then they come on hear and give old fashioned and out dated advise that is totaly amateurish.Try a ten by eight inch loop set at ten inches and spray the snare and wire teiler with leaf green paint.Try setting a discent road line of about ten to fifteen miles minimum for three months of the year,then come back on hear and tell us all if these loop sizes and height settings work.