Born Hunter
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I've heard it about the world but I'm not sure I want to confuse matters by considering what numbers are coming out of Somalia et al. LOL. In the UK my understanding is that flu deaths are as expected based on previous years.
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Nowhere, in the UK at least. Flu deaths are as expected to my knowledge. I tried to find the data but it's not as easy to get hold of as weekly deaths from all causes. Can you share the stuff that makes you think they have dropped?
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Fella, lol past five years fluctuate in deaths by a two percent at most. This year is 13% higher than average.
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You need to use 'if' more. Confuses the f**k out of me when you say "I had flu in 2018 and died...." I can't comment on how flu is recorded because I don't know, all I know is that if other illnesses are present along with COVID all gets recorded. And I've explained why. I can't explain your allegations about previous years and the flu because I don't know. As I said, we look at the spectrum of information. Which includes the fact that this year stands out in it's surplus deaths. Put them down to whatever you will. They ain't being pinched from flu or pneumonia unless we have some s
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And you call me evasive, LOL. What do you have to say about the total deaths graph? You made this claim that this years isn't anything special....
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What question? I've answered all of them directly. LOL.
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If you died in 2018 then I'm f***ing scared now!
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Directly from the ONS. I only counted the previous years deaths up to the same week that 2020 has been published to. It's not a fair to compare a years worth of deaths for other years with only 11 months of deaths from 2020.
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Yes I know. There's nothing wrong with that because doctors can't be sure pneumonia was 100% responsible for their death. They list all comorbidities because they need to know how they interact with each other. If COVID worsens pneumonia but COVID is never mentioned if pneumonia is present too then we can never learn this. You have to look at the spectrum of evidence. That includes surplus deaths and increases in deaths attributed to other things like pneumonia which might be caused by COVID as a comorbidity. Everything needs to be listed!
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Yep, and if pneumonia was a comorbidity then the pneumonia stats get another too!
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Doctors list all the diseases they believe are factors in death. If someone has pneumonia and dies it sure as shit will be referenced on the death certificate. Death certs don't just list one thing, unless only one thing is relevant. This is really neither here nor there. You seemed to claim that this year is no different to previous years when the total deaths quite clearly show that this year stands out significantly.
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So? LOL. If you died with another condition BOTH would be stated. I've read the f***ing death certificates. LOL
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Total deaths to date for this year compared with the last five years. 2020 542,463 113% 2019 474,813 99% 2018 490,223 102% 2017 479,585 100% 2016 472,783 99% 2015 481,708 100% Avg. 479,822 100% To date the mortality rate is 13% higher than
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No they wouldn't, the death cert would read both. Just like it would if it was flu and another respiratory illness.
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Incorrect. You said from flu, now you're adding other respiratory illness, the truth is 50k surplus. And given we're talking about surplus deaths, this sort of fucks on your claims that this year is no worse than 2018.
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That's a fair shout and one of the things people need to consider when weighing up vaccination. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-vaccine-side-effects-storage-uk-b1765632.html
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LOVE TO! I'd have 'pleb games' where I pit plebs of my choosing against lions and make them do impossible tasks to prove their plebery. Yep, I can see myself in the big house.
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I'm a politician now mate! Not mutually exclusive of course But I thought I'd keep you up to speed.
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All fair opinions gents.
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Which raises the question, what are the lives of the aged worth to us?
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Aye, like that cracker about 50k flu deaths in 2018!
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There's a lot of politics going on. No doubt Johnson's team were keen to regain some pride too mind.
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You'd give me a run for my money with how f***ing evasive you are.
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I think that's logical given the demographic spread of the dead. Likewise if we lost a chunk of a younger generation you'd likely expect a dip in deaths when they would've reached life expectancy. All things being equal and assuming the number of dead is large enough not to get lost in the random statistical nature of it all.
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Also, can I point out that I haven't mocked anyone for choosing not to have this f***ing vaccine.
