if you cant on here try emailing me it ,its kind of what got me thinking that the ugly dogs i seen as a kid were workers, pot fillers that earned their keep. no one cared about looks,in 70,s/80,s.now with more money and show craze people seem to care about looks over working ability.back in dorset even the lifestock was crossbreds let alone small animals only big farmers had pure breeds.so if someone had a ugly dog you knew it was a secret grafter.i expect the people that used to knock around the hill farms in wales/shropshire can relate to this rundown farms beat up old van no flash jap 4x4,