Cheers for that B.Q and Diggory, like you said I try to be honest with my dogs ( terriers and lurchers), it's the best way IMO, like I've said and never hid the fact...the dog had his faults but like Stevolad has also said if you put the dog in an occupied earth then you were getting your quarry with the dog . Stevolad, in regards to getting a pup from the same breeding I'm not sure, I like the build of the dogs, they are good strong things and can hold difficult quarry also they're rock steady with other dogs which is another good thing, but a bad point was like has been said the false marki