Yes, I can remember that , obviously not all farmers are gun wielding psychos wanting to kill people on their land...but the point I'm getting at is, respect them, the reason most local farmers won't entertain people on land, is because they get tortured, well certainly around me, people just go where they want and do what they want regardless, most of the farmers aren't too bothered though luckily, they just go along with it... Yes people can get fed up of knocking at doors and getting turned away, and just think f**k it, I'm going on anyway, but other people may have permission on there, sh