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  1. shovel leaner

    Foxes hit hard??

    That’s not keepering that’s criminal . They risk getting caught and losing their jobs and probably their homes . I hope they get caught. Muppets!
  2. shovel leaner

    Foxes hit hard??

    I know how you feel , I’ve been there and the feeling is sickening. But it’s not the foxes fault, he is confused because it’s an unnatural amount of food . He kills what he can , half buries some , bites the heads off others . Every Keeper I know has walked into that same scene in the morning. Not just in the pen but when they are scared and fly out and are mopped up on the outside . But you can’t take it personally. He’s a wild animal reacting to a glut of food that you created . I am ruthless and persistent in fox control before and after birds are put to wood . I use every weapon at my disposal, Thermal , night vision scope , snares . But not dogs as it’s not sport . That comes later .
  3. shovel leaner

    Foxes hit hard??

    When you talk of control, I would say you are only controlling something when you get a population to a size that you can live with . If a gun pack is shooting that number they are out of control. If you have a farmer loosing livestock you have to control them otherwise let them be to do what comes naturally.
  4. shovel leaner

    Foxes hit hard??

    One thing I hate is people who shoot foxes this time of year who then shoot a milky vixen and don’t bother to deal with the cubs . I’ve had to shoot problem foxes this time of year on a mates free range poultry farm . And a hungry litter of cubs can soon do a lot of damage . I hate doing it but if I said no , he would ask someone else . But I make sure I spend time looking for the cubs .
  5. shovel leaner

    Foxes hit hard??

    I know your tongue is wedged in your cheek mate . But if I relied on the hunt my terriers and Lurcher’s to control foxes , I would be out of a job .
  6. shovel leaner

    Foxes hit hard??

    I can only say what I’ve seen with my own eyes , but conventional Lamping either with dogs or rifles is not the problem. You will get lamp shy foxes . With thermal foxes haven’t got a clue . What I am seeing now is vehicle shy foxes who are disappearing when they hear a motor . But if you are on foot using a thermal spotter and night vision scope it is very easy to take out even the most cunning and educated foxes . In the hands of indiscriminate hunters who have no let up on foxes , they will wipe out an area I’m sure .
  7. shovel leaner

    Foxes hit hard??

    Add to all that , pressure from “midnight cowboys “ with thermal . From what I hear fox numbers up and down the country are right down . I’m well foxed where I am and have litters of cubs near me doing well . The first I saw was early March . I was reading that interview with Darren Cashmore in EDRD this month and it made depressing reading . He says that good hunting areas have had their fox populations destroyed by night shooting with thermal. I’m a keeper myself and I have thermal , but I leave the foxes alone from about October when the pheasants can look after themselves. That’s because my boss likes hunting and I like working terriers. I know Keepers near me with partridge don’t show any mercy. But for your average Joe with a rifle , they just want to shoot something and it’s become a “sport “ in its own right . Sad times ahead I fear .
  8. shovel leaner

    Good Day Out Catching Nutria

    Thanks for the write up , I always enjoy reading about working dogs in the states .
  9. shovel leaner

    What do ye make of this

    I haven’t read the article , but just reading the thread and from what I gather the guys were supposedly goading their terrier in an end of dog situation .... utter muppets . No place for their kind in proper earth work . It’s idiots like them that got badgers protected . We need to distance ourselves from this kind of behaviour . Terriers have a legitimate role in pest control and I can hold my head high and be proud of the way I conduct myself at a dig . Anyone could witness what I do and would see that no cruelty was involved . I can’t understand why anyone would want to do what they are accused of , shame on them if they did it . I would also say that they are probably Johnny come lately types who will probably move on to their next craze in a couple of months , but apparently he’s a Fmwt rep ?? The mind boggles .
  10. shovel leaner

    New Artifical

    Sounds like sensible advice mate .
  11. shovel leaner

    New Artifical

    I was told that if you cut them in half lengthwise then you obviously double the length . And then we rested them in a channel lined with sand . I was also told they don’t like traveling on plastic but the rabbits burrowed in and around it and given it a bit of “air conditioning “ which I don’t think Charlie likes . I think if I’d done what you did it would have been a better job . You live and learn !
  12. shovel leaner

    New Artifical

    A few years ago I had a go at making one . After a chat with the local hunt terrier man we decided on a good spot . I had begged some large yellow plastic gas pipe which I cut in half lengthwise. We got the digger out and a trailer of sand which I was informed would be the best thing for the floor of the pipe . When the job was done I stood back and admired my handy work , I dreamt of all the easy bolts I would be having and chuckled to myself at how cunning and clever I was to have constructed such a brilliant artificial. Well as you’ve probably guessed it didn’t quite go to plan , rabbits moved in and quickly destroyed it . It’s still there and I often try it but so far I haven’t had one in . 1-0 to Charlie.
  13. shovel leaner

    New Artifical

    The area I grew up in had some very big fields and very little cover or woods near . The area was hunted over a lot in days gone by but because of the M5 it could no longer be hunted . There were three artificials that were basically terracotta pipe about 10-15 yards long with a slab bed chamber covered with old grave stones they were just straight running in the hedge line . But I used to go over there a lot and regularly found in them , sometimes more than one , 3 was the best . I even found old billy in there , on his travels no doubt and in the days before you could get in trouble . My theory is that where there is little or no other places to hide away the daylight hours then an artificial will work well , but if there is a lot of cover and woodland and natural earths or rock piles then they may take longer to be used , if at all .
  14. shovel leaner

    Julian barnfield grass

    I definitely think that Julian would be well advised to keep his gob shut and his opinions to himself. No matter what some of the hunting set think or believe, the majority of them know better than to spout off in front of a camera. We all need to remember the countryside marches, where we all stood shoulder to shoulder through the streets of our capital , pheasant shooters , ferret fanciers, Lurcher boys , hunt staff , terrier lads , beaters , you name it . We were all united on those days . Hunting is the thin end of the wedge, once that’s gone they will start on something else . But the reality is that the ban is unworkable and hunting is getting by ... just . With all the loopholes and setting drags , birds of prey you name it , it will continue, but devisive remarks like his will only alienate other sportsmen , and I wonder if future marches would be so well attended ?
  15. shovel leaner

    Julian barnfield grass

    So what if they did ? That would be there loss ! Terrier work would survive . I can’t say I’d blame them if meant that they could continue to enjoy what they do . I’m struggling to think of an analogy but it’s a bit like fishermen being told the only way they will be allowed to keep fishing is if they stop drowning maggots . They would probably stop using maggots . Then all the maggot suppliers would be saying what a shower of sh@te fishermen were for not supporting them .
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