will.f11 24 Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 ferreting is a sport. Why not just sit and wait or use a locator. What is the point of smoking. Stupid thing to do if you ask me a kid with common sense sat you're out ferreting say you have your net's ferret and ferret box in mine i will put paper then there bedding on top say your ferret stay's down is it not common sense to take a bit of that paper and use it to smoke your ferret out Say i come to pick you up for a bit of hunting.And lets say you slept in.So i proceed to push the sun newspaper through your letter box in the attempt to smoke you out.Smoke kills mate thats a common fact.I am no vet or owt but im guessing it wouldnt take a lot.Really cant be good for a small animal like a fert. And ferts often get stuck down stop ends with a shit-scared rbbit blocking the way. Not the right thing to do. Quote Link to post
stubby 175 Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 what no one else has mentioned, but using "any smoke" to flush rabbits and or ferrets, is probably breaking more legalisations than I care to mention, although doubtful that someone watching you ferret, would also know the different legalisations, but there's always a first time for everything Quote Link to post
will.f11 24 Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 yes The isnt any point in doing it Quote Link to post
The one 8,588 Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 When a newbie asks what do you need to go ferreting the first thing oneverybody's list is a locator ??? why i think were losing some of the skill of the silent approach down wind ,no smoking ,etc because any hold up and in with the spade . You can ferret and people do with out a locator when i first started many moons ago they hadn't been invented .I went out with my dad and my uncle and if there was a delay i sat there and waited till the ferret came out picked up the nets and caught up with them .We did okay and got good bags of rabbit which went to the game dealer every monday morning so every rabbit counted . Now days ive 8 boxes and 14 collars and being honest i wouldn't be with out them ,a few times a ferret has cornered a rabbit in the last place i would have thought and would never have found them . But you still need patience when ferreting a few folk think after 5 minutes sod alls happening spade job and open up ,a locators a dam fine tool in the right hands but many a burrow can be ruined by to much digging and causing dead ends. Ferreting can and will be done with out a locator its a lot of cash for sombody to stump up with nets etc and good luck to anybody who chooses to work with out one . taking me back 40 years to sitting outside a rabbit burrow for a hour or two not how i'd like to do it today Quote Link to post
will.f11 24 Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 I totally agree. I find that I can sit outside a borrow and stil enjoy it. Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 some of the comments are laughable... Quote Link to post
richie 1 Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 smoking ferrets out ! never heard such bollocks ! Quote Link to post
victor 10 Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 i dont have one yet, but as soon as i get money to spend on one i will, been ferreting for about 4 years and havent ever seen one in use. Quote Link to post
victor 10 Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 what no one else has mentioned, but using "any smoke" to flush rabbits and or ferrets, is probably breaking more legalisations than I care to mention, although doubtful that someone watching you ferret, would also know the different legalisations, but there's always a first time for everything have tryed to smoke out a ferret and it did not work, i realy didnt want to. but i dont have a locaton or a spade with me when i go ferreting. Quote Link to post
woodga 170 Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 we take a few rabbits each season with ferrets and in my opinion now a days every responsible ferret user should have at least one box and collar years ago you listened to radios for your entertainment now you all use tellevisions, except maybe you ditch shitter, its called moving with the times and if you want to sit for hours out side a rabbit hole in january in -6 just use the old style after a few sessions like that you may think differently ferrets do kill and at SOME time be trapped and all the waiting in the world wont get him out Quote Link to post
Guest Leveller Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Will the ferret locater collar work with the Deben LTF, as I have one of those for terrier work.. C.J. Yes it will work but they aren't calibrated to each other so it will give you false readings but you'll be used to that if you're using the lrt anyaway Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 is that a ferret or a sausage dog? or is it a greyhound ferret.. Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 " It's called moving with the times. " I call it 'Rattle their cage of self righteousness and watch them all explode into hysteria!' Works every time. Funny, isn't it? Fly short or broadwings. Dig to, run, snare or shoot a fox. Fish or Clay Bust. Whatever. That's all " Each to his own, mate! Good luck to yerr! " But have the temerity to suggest a f*cking rabbit can be caught without the aid of mickey soft type electronics and ooooohh! Don't the cats come out to hiss and scratch! You might get some high and mighty old dinosaurs dismissing their use but what they did in the olden days and now 20 years on since they last ferreted a rabbit are a world apart. I can't wait to read my Biography, dimples! When Are ye going to write it ~ from ye encyclopaedic knowledge of my life and times? Only may I suggest ye run it past Me first? So I might correct ye chronology? I was There, sunshine And what, pray, is the difference between the rabbit and its habits of today and twenty years ago? That should make almost as enlightening a read as ye forthcoming book. Only, what we did " in the olden days " was catch rabbits. I fail to see why such methods as we used then should fail to work with todays rabbits. In fact, the only reason I see for you lot being so 'High and Mightily' down on " Ferreting " is because its very mention demonstrates the chasm between that and the modern practice of " Rabbit Digging ". Was it Orwell who said something about; " He who can 'control' history can control the future. " What in interesting caricature that evokes; Legions of jack booted Super Race members, Goose Stepping over burys, spades sloped on their shoulders and little boxes held out and aloft before them. Humming, " The Future Belongs To Me! " we take a few rabbits each season with ferrets and in my opinion now a days every responsible ferret user should have at least one box and collar years ago you listened to radios for your entertainment now you all use tellevisions, except maybe you ditch shitter, its called moving with the times and if you want to sit for hours out side a rabbit hole in january in -6 just use the old style after a few sessions like that you may think differently ferrets do kill and at SOME time be trapped and all the waiting in the world wont get him out Woodga; Does My not owning a television, radio or knocker box effect You though??? Why Should anyone else feel obliged to march to Your drum? Again I ask; Where does all this spirit of Live and Let Live go, the moment it's suggested that rabbit digging isn't the only way? Sitting for hours outside a rabbit hole? Do ye know I haven't because ye've been given a peek at the manuscript of my up and coming Biography? If so, bravo, Gnips; That bit's right! I haven't 'sat for hours'. Simply never needed to. Never had a ferret that gave me cause to. Never had one become trapped either - not making them wear collars probably helped there? Nothing to snag, see? Anyway, I've enjoyed this enlightening little read about myself. Thank you for the input, chaps. I surely now know myself that bit better than all those years of experience inside my skin. Now, just for a Real laugh; Any of you Northerners fancy a trip south? Run ye finger along a map of the south coast till ye find something called The South Downs. Little geological thing formed by the sea, just a bit before even my time. We locals used to call it " Chalk ". And it bears a nice, thick, total layer of " Flint ". So, why don't you lot get a little coach trip together and take ye spades, little boxes and ye ferrets down there. Pop ye ferrets in. March around a bit. Then just strike that green sward with ye spade Then we'll see what could keep a man Hours at one bury. And I'm sure even our Woodga there wouldn't stay cold for long Quote Link to post
higgins 75 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 I am new to Ferrets and was wondering if a locater is necessary? C.J. no you don't need a locater,if your not going to use one,then you must have plenty of waiting time,no nagging wife expecting you home within the first hour of ferreting,no job to get back to,you must not 'value' your ferrets highly enough,you must not poach or be ferreting without permission,you definitely shouldn't expect a 'high catch ratio',you will need yards of white depth marked string,or possibly a nasty big hob to assist you,maybe even a few too many mates to help you destroy the warren in search of your jill and her catch, replicated for as long as it takes,but you could of course read up on how the previous generations did it,the alternative of course is to 'go along with the times 'simply because you expect instant results in your ferreting adventures,and also simply enough because 'you don't have the time to mess about with all of the above!No i am not going to help you choose a locater as well,i'm merely pointing out to you the disadvantages of not needing a locater because you asked! Quote Link to post
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 " It's called moving with the times. " I call it 'Rattle their cage of self righteousness and watch them all explode into hysteria!' Works every time. Funny, isn't it? Fly short or broadwings. Dig to, run, snare or shoot a fox. Fish or Clay Bust. Whatever. That's all " Each to his own, mate! Good luck to yerr! " But have the temerity to suggest a f*cking rabbit can be caught without the aid of mickey soft type electronics and ooooohh! Don't the cats come out to hiss and scratch! You might get some high and mighty old dinosaurs dismissing their use but what they did in the olden days and now 20 years on since they last ferreted a rabbit are a world apart. I can't wait to read my Biography, dimples! When Are ye going to write it ~ from ye encyclopaedic knowledge of my life and times? Only may I suggest ye run it past Me first? So I might correct ye chronology? I was There, sunshine And what, pray, is the difference between the rabbit and its habits of today and twenty years ago? That should make almost as enlightening a read as ye forthcoming book. Only, what we did " in the olden days " was catch rabbits. I fail to see why such methods as we used then should fail to work with todays rabbits. In fact, the only reason I see for you lot being so 'High and Mightily' down on " Ferreting " is because its very mention demonstrates the chasm between that and the modern practice of " Rabbit Digging ". Was it Orwell who said something about; " He who can 'control' history can control the future. " What in interesting caricature that evokes; Legions of jack booted Super Race members, Goose Stepping over burys, spades sloped on their shoulders and little boxes held out and aloft before them. Humming, " The Future Belongs To Me! " we take a few rabbits each season with ferrets and in my opinion now a days every responsible ferret user should have at least one box and collar years ago you listened to radios for your entertainment now you all use tellevisions, except maybe you ditch shitter, its called moving with the times and if you want to sit for hours out side a rabbit hole in january in -6 just use the old style after a few sessions like that you may think differently ferrets do kill and at SOME time be trapped and all the waiting in the world wont get him out Woodga; Does My not owning a television, radio or knocker box effect You though??? Why Should anyone else feel obliged to march to Your drum? Again I ask; Where does all this spirit of Live and Let Live go, the moment it's suggested that rabbit digging isn't the only way? Sitting for hours outside a rabbit hole? Do ye know I haven't because ye've been given a peek at the manuscript of my up and coming Biography? If so, bravo, Gnips; That bit's right! I haven't 'sat for hours'. Simply never needed to. Never had a ferret that gave me cause to. Never had one become trapped either - not making them wear collars probably helped there? Nothing to snag, see? Anyway, I've enjoyed this enlightening little read about myself. Thank you for the input, chaps. I surely now know myself that bit better than all those years of experience inside my skin. Now, just for a Real laugh; Any of you Northerners fancy a trip south? Run ye finger along a map of the south coast till ye find something called The South Downs. Little geological thing formed by the sea, just a bit before even my time. We locals used to call it " Chalk ". And it bears a nice, thick, total layer of " Flint ". So, why don't you lot get a little coach trip together and take ye spades, little boxes and ye ferrets down there. Pop ye ferrets in. March around a bit. Then just strike that green sward with ye spade Then we'll see what could keep a man Hours at one bury. And I'm sure even our Woodga there wouldn't stay cold for long I'd like to buy a copy of your book when it comes out mate Quote Link to post
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