Amen Rupert Lowe !

[Halfhound 992]

5 minutes ago, welshphil said:

So we've got another multi-millionaire snake oil salesman proclaiming to be the saviour of the working class and the usual suspects will fall for it hook, line and sinker. Same as the rest of them he's only interested in power and wealth.

But he will deport the darkies welshphil once there gone the steel works and the docks will be back flying the mines opened back up and India can be reconquered. NHS will have 98% efficiency and they’ll scrap income tax once they don’t have to pay to house the dingy people in the hotels. Keep up son

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20 minutes ago, welshphil said:

So we've got another multi-millionaire snake oil salesman proclaiming to be the saviour of the working class and the usual suspects will fall for it hook, line and sinker. Same as the rest of them he's only interested in power and wealth.

They are all only Interested in power and wealth, the question is will they make your life better or worse while they are getting it ?

Lets face it, Fred down the pub ain’t gonna do it for a bag of chips and fiver every week is he……

[Borr 9,006]

4 hours ago, jukel123 said:

There's a nuclear reprocessing plant not far from me. It's poured radiative nuclear fuel into the Solway Firth for decades. There were several incidents of dangerous radioactive leaks including a devastating fire.

Fishermen like me who are daft enough to stand in the Solway for hours at a time were exposed to it and we are tested from time to time to see how much radiation is in our bodies. Fortunately we are OK  but my penis does glow green at  night.

The point I'm making is that Windscale  CHANGED ITS NAME to Sellafield and reassures us that now it's perfectly safe .

Reform are nothing but the tories under a different name.

Windscale did a cover up as we were in process of sharing nuclear capabilities with America . 

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16 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

But he will deport the darkies welshphil once there gone the steel works and the docks will be back flying the mines opened back up and India can be reconquered. NHS will have 98% efficiency and they’ll scrap income tax once they don’t have to pay to house the dingy people in the hotels. Keep up son

As opposed to “Yes, I agree, the emperor has a lovely new set of clothes!” lol 

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4 hours ago, NEWKID said:

One of the local Reform councillors here is a complete prick, I've dealt with him and know him, not the bloke he portrays to be at all, I know hes a tiny cog but puts me off voting for reform completely... ill watch Restore with interest, might just start one up myself...revamp or maybe rewind lol

The wife is siding with restore and lowe and she's Romanian Hungarian, I feel I may have to back track on previous comments, maybe I was just excited about something other than labour conservative options , lowe certainly doesn't hold back I like the de islamification of UK thing , I'm more concerned about removing illegal immigrants tbh, I felt it was going to move further right , just thought it would be after the reform landslide . I'm going to sit of the fence for a bit see what pans out if reform ally with cons I'm out , I do want radical change , see what happens in next couple of months...a guy in a reform version in Romania who got ousted by the new party is now president. It's a lively time in politics...

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8 minutes ago, Borr said:

The wife is siding with restore and lowe and she's Romanian Hungarian, I feel I may have to back track on previous comments, maybe I was just excited about something other than labour conservative options , lowe certainly doesn't hold back I like the de islamification of UK thing , I'm more concerned about removing illegal immigrants tbh, I felt it was going to move further right , just thought it would be after the reform landslide . I'm going to sit of the fence for a bit see what pans out if reform ally with cons I'm out , I do want radical change , see what happens in next couple of months...a guy in a reform version in Romania who got ousted by the new party is now president. It's a lively time in politics...

Now, I obviously wouldn’t be as aquatinted with Central European culture as you mate, I only know what I see on telly and suchlike but they don’t seem to have ghettos full of the 3rd world in them places ?…..they seem to be culturally nationalistic.

Like it don’t seem like there’s a Brixton equivalent in Budpest or a Tower Hamlets in Vilnius !

These people must think we are insane ?

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Just now, WILF said:

Now, I obviously wouldn’t be as aquatinted with Central European culture as you mate, I only know what I see on telly and suchlike but they don’t seem to have ghettos full of the 3rd world in them places ?…..they seem to culturally nationalistic.

Like it don’t seem like there’s a Brixton equivalent in Budpest or a Tower Hamlets in Vilnius !

These people must think we are insane ?

Some illegals turned up asked where they were , were informed on there location being Romania and burst into tears , they get nothing there , and there is a right and central faction and even the old timers dreaming of the communist hell....

[Halfhound 992]

12 minutes ago, WILF said:

As opposed to “Yes, I agree, the emperor has a lovely new set of clothes!” lol 

I reckon I’ve a good 25 years left in me WILF and I’d imagine you do too. I’d be pretty sure we will be re hashing the same old tripe for the next 20 years. Very little will change. Different people will get into politics by saying different things. They’ll all feather their nests and slip away. The average man’s standard of living will continue to drop the the 1% will continue to get wealthier and not have any ideas about any of the problems the other 99% are facing. You’ll continue to fall for grifters and I’ll continue to try and wise you up

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26 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

I reckon I’ve a good 25 years left in me WILF and I’d imagine you do too. I’d be pretty sure we will be re hashing the same old tripe for the next 20 years. Very little will change. Different people will get into politics by saying different things. They’ll all feather their nests and slip away. The average man’s standard of living will continue to drop the the 1% will continue to get wealthier and not have any ideas about any of the problems the other 99% are facing. You’ll continue to fall for grifters and I’ll continue to try and wise you up

Fair mate, and you’re right I probably will continue to fall for grifters but I won’t be looking for a bloke who thinks the shinners are nationalist to steer me right !……lol 

[Halfhound 992]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

Fair mate, and you’re right I probably will continue to fall for grifters but I won’t be looking for a bloke who thinks the shinners are nationalist to steer me right !……lol 

You couldn’t possibly understand and I couldn’t possibly explain

[NEWKID 30,034]

6 hours ago, Halfhound said:

Sorry Newkid if I come across as nosey but you seem to be a guy who runs a company works hard and does reasonably well. Earlier in the topic people said that the Uk is a dead loss to be in business in and I disagreed. How do you find it? I think you seem well qualified to give an opinion 

Hard for ne to answer really mate, because I think I'm Geographically advantageous.. plus I've been at it for nearly 30 years, so I guess pretty established and perhaps less concerned by the sharp peaks and troughs a newer business would face... but... generally I think getting on in business is harder, I employ less lads now (had 35 on the books at one point and up to 40 or 50 subbies), that's partly because I don't want the aggro abd partly because there is a "sweet spot" (imo) where the business turnover and net profit align... it can be different for many people, but id say im about right now, and could grow a little again, but will probably help my lad grow it in the future from a slightly different role...  I don't believe the UK is the worst place to trade and run a business, but I do think you have to get it right quickly, there is little help, back up etc for small businesses, some of the stuff ive seen Lowe suggesting is Utopia for small to medium businesses, I agree with it in principle. 

On another note, ive employed over 200 people over the years, and all have been British apart from 1 pole abd 1 Romanian... who are 2 of the best lads ive ever had on, the Romanian lad is currently renovating my brothers house, a chippy by trade but can turn his hand to anything, proper grafter and seriously talented... hes become a family friend now and I like his story... I was very anti foreign labour, I felt I couldn't be true to myself if I filled every role with cheaper foreign labour, it cost my contracts and reduced my margins (compared to other similar firms) ive got 3 young Emglush lads on at the minute, plus a few of us oldies, the youngsters will learn a trade, and can use it if they choose... I still use lads that started with us at 17 and are now running their own gangs, (3 gangs regulary), we've trained them, they know what we exoecr, they earn more money running there own business and sub back to us when we need them... they're in their 40s now... 

My old man gave me odd bits of advice, one was, no ones is gonna give anything to you,  you've got to get out and earn it... personally I just get on with it, I think the system could be better, the taxation is bollocks.. I was also advised to pay top whack for your accountant, they save you more than you pay them... that was a great bit of advice lol

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The more i read what Rupert Lowe has the guts to say the more i like him . Surprising when you think about it that he really is appealing to ordinary working class folk up and down the country who are worlds apart from Rupert in lifestyle that if anything should be an indication of how pissed off the common man is with the state of country.

[WILF 52,357]

10 hours ago, NEWKID said:

Hard for ne to answer really mate, because I think I'm Geographically advantageous.. plus I've been at it for nearly 30 years, so I guess pretty established and perhaps less concerned by the sharp peaks and troughs a newer business would face... but... generally I think getting on in business is harder, I employ less lads now (had 35 on the books at one point and up to 40 or 50 subbies), that's partly because I don't want the aggro abd partly because there is a "sweet spot" (imo) where the business turnover and net profit align... it can be different for many people, but id say im about right now, and could grow a little again, but will probably help my lad grow it in the future from a slightly different role...  I don't believe the UK is the worst place to trade and run a business, but I do think you have to get it right quickly, there is little help, back up etc for small businesses, some of the stuff ive seen Lowe suggesting is Utopia for small to medium businesses, I agree with it in principle. 

On another note, ive employed over 200 people over the years, and all have been British apart from 1 pole abd 1 Romanian... who are 2 of the best lads ive ever had on, the Romanian lad is currently renovating my brothers house, a chippy by trade but can turn his hand to anything, proper grafter and seriously talented... hes become a family friend now and I like his story... I was very anti foreign labour, I felt I couldn't be true to myself if I filled every role with cheaper foreign labour, it cost my contracts and reduced my margins (compared to other similar firms) ive got 3 young Emglush lads on at the minute, plus a few of us oldies, the youngsters will learn a trade, and can use it if they choose... I still use lads that started with us at 17 and are now running their own gangs, (3 gangs regulary), we've trained them, they know what we exoecr, they earn more money running there own business and sub back to us when we need them... they're in their 40s now... 

My old man gave me odd bits of advice, one was, no ones is gonna give anything to you,  you've got to get out and earn it... personally I just get on with it, I think the system could be better, the taxation is bollocks.. I was also advised to pay top whack for your accountant, they save you more than you pay them... that was a great bit of advice lol

Great post mate.

I think the question was a bit irrelevant because as you say you’re 30 years in and of a certain size so what you gonna do ? Pack up ? lol 

I think a better question is, given your knowledge and then placing yourself in a position of a lad wanting to get going totally green, would you start a business now ?

I was chatting to a lad yesterday, he was telling me most of the manufacturers in my old industry are on 3 day week and have been for a while.

i could tell you the story of pals of mine that always did everything right, had a decent long term business of 20 years that just said “enough it enough” last year……but it’s a sector thing in reality.

Building has been booming in the U.K. for over 10 years imho, it’s an ever increasing asset that pension funds and private investors are happy to put money into.

Thats not suggesting that it has some kind of protected status, I know well the massively expensive regulatory hoops and pitfalls you face daily, you still have to be a very smart cookie to do what you have done. 
 

I think the truth is, there are a few industries doing well and everyone else is fighting for a bit of an ever decreasing pot, the normal story of everyone eating themselves…..so for instance, my pals truck firms are earning a fortune because the law says everyone has to take their truck in there every 6 weeks at £200 an hour plus parts ! 
But the fact is, the owner driver taking their truck in there is lucky if he is clearing £15 an hour !……he may as well work in an Amazon warehouse ?

He ain’t investing in a single thing that isn’t essential and the truck firm is beating their suppliers down to the last penny because they know they need it.

The two lads I spoke about were telling me 2 years ago that they were quoting 200 new operators chairs into the council at that time, that’s a 40 k job and they were struggling to get it over line by earning £1600 (sixteen hundred !!) out of it !!…….20 years ago that job earned you £20k profit !! 
The writing is on the wall when that happens because not only is the margin reduced, the cost of operating has quadrupled…..it’s costing £400 just to deliver it ! 
Drive a van into London and you’ve done £100 before you even earned a penny, more if you didn’t want to go and get credited up on £30,000 worth of new van so it meets all the standards designed to rob people. 
Blackwall tunnel is now a charge when it used to be free.

I’ve not got a big clever business brain, I’m not driven like other lads who I admire for learning as they go and making something big…..I just think if a lad starts a business then he has to earn more than if he just went and worked in a factory with no risk…..a lot more.

Things are good when there is what we used to call plenty of wanking money about, but it just isn’t there imho…..your private householder is doing it out of mortgage and credit card debt and you big company is only spending it in certain areas and then triple checking every single decision. 
They used to say Britain is a nation of shopkeepers and I think there’s a truth there, but I just don’t see who is honestly going to take their life savings (if they have any) and go and rent a little unit and start selling stuff when most of that money will be gone in regulation and tax in the first 12 months ?….id say you need very deep pockets to even consider it.

A far cry from when a lad could just buy a van and crack on. 
 

You see these Central European nations setting tax rates at 10% and no inheritance etc, they also have invested in their internet infrastructure to make it some of the best in the world…..there is a reason they are doing that, they know the score.

Personally, if I was advising a young person I’d be telling them to have a serious look at places only 7 or 8 hundred miles away that allow them to keep 30/40/50% more of what they earn and lets them pass it on for free but that’s just my opinion and I’m sure there are many good reasons that could be wrong. 

Second hand used to be a good indicator of the start up economy, but take one look at eBay these days and see everyone trying to murder everything away at rock bottom prices….theres one reason for that, nobody is buying. 

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Dont look like Advance UK and Restore will join forces so Habib was jumping the gun a bit. Rupert Lowe is threatening to sue Reform because Laila Cunningham called Restore "neo-nazis" on GB News and 9 councillors have also defected to Restore from Reform.

You just cant keep up!