waltjnr 8,489 Posted yesterday at 15:17 Report Share Posted yesterday at 15:17 I thought radcliffes comments made more sense and more honest than the evading the point false promises mp's spout daily 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 18,029 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago I see Rupert Lowe has just announced he’s launched a new party. Restore Britain… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 52,276 Posted 2 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: I see Rupert Lowe has just announced he’s launched a new party. Restore Britain… Brilliant news ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltjnr 8,489 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, WILF said: Brilliant news ! I want Adolf jnr jnr back from brazil saying "i'll sort this sht !" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 8,946 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago That's been around for a while now. It's another reason I feel he doesn't have the country at heart , why wouldn't he wait until reform take power to start a new right leaning party , so now we have reform , restore, advance, if reform don't get an overwhelming majority they won't get stuff done. I honestly despair that a party that has said everything we want to hear is already not good enough to warrant a chance and immediately the whole idea is scuppered before it begins...I just don't see the logic, lowe should focus on rape gangs , he's on social media he has support and funding as an independent, why jeapodise the first chance of a new mainstream party in 100 years . He already made his move to become leader of reform with the encouragement of musk and failed , he wrote a derogatory piece on farage and then wonders why he was ousted from the party. Honestly if reform don't win a majority due to split wvotes and a left wing coalition then I think I'm done with Britain and the people of Britain... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 18,029 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 11 minutes ago, WILF said: Brilliant news ! Thought you might like it. Decent enough launch video/speech. But there’s now a huge risk of the right wing vote being split to nothing. A right wing coalition wouldn’t necessarily be terrible but it’s a risk with FPtP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 52,276 Posted 2 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Born Hunter said: Thought you might like it. Decent enough launch video/speech. But there’s now a huge risk of the right wing vote being split to nothing. A right wing coalition wouldn’t necessarily be terrible but it’s a risk with FPtP. If it achieves nothing more than stopping the relentless back sliding and gradual creep to the left of Reform then it has achieved something ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 18,029 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, Borr said: That's been around for a while now. It's another reason I feel he doesn't have the country at heart , why wouldn't he wait until reform take power to start a new right leaning party , so now we have reform , restore, advance, if reform don't get an overwhelming majority they won't get stuff done. I honestly despair that a party that has said everything we want to hear is already not good enough to warrant a chance and immediately the whole idea is scuppered before it begins...I just don't see the logic, lowe should focus on rape gangs , he's on social media he has support and funding as an independent, why jeapodise the first chance of a new mainstream party in 100 years . He already made his move to become leader of reform with the encouragement of musk and failed , he wrote a derogatory piece on farage and then wonders why he was ousted from the party. Honestly if reform don't win a majority due to split wvotes and a left wing coalition then I think I'm done with Britain and the people of Britain... I kind of agree. Tactically now feels the wrong time. But tbf there will never be a right time. He’s doing what he feels is needed and it’s very hard to disagree with him or find him anything but absolutely genuine. Tactically it feels like a detrimental move though. Edited 2 hours ago by Born Hunter 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 18,029 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, WILF said: If it achieves nothing more than stopping the relentless back sliding and gradual creep to the left of Reform then it has achieved something ! That’s a very fair point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 8,946 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, WILF said: If it achieves nothing more than stopping the relentless back sliding and gradual creep to the left of Reform then it has achieved something ! In what way are they creeping to the left? I optimistically feel they are currently acting in a popularist manner , and once in power will harden their approach, but maybe I'm being naive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 52,276 Posted 2 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Borr said: That's been around for a while now. It's another reason I feel he doesn't have the country at heart , why wouldn't he wait until reform take power to start a new right leaning party , so now we have reform , restore, advance, if reform don't get an overwhelming majority they won't get stuff done. I honestly despair that a party that has said everything we want to hear is already not good enough to warrant a chance and immediately the whole idea is scuppered before it begins...I just don't see the logic, lowe should focus on rape gangs , he's on social media he has support and funding as an independent, why jeapodise the first chance of a new mainstream party in 100 years . He already made his move to become leader of reform with the encouragement of musk and failed , he wrote a derogatory piece on farage and then wonders why he was ousted from the party. Honestly if reform don't win a majority due to split wvotes and a left wing coalition then I think I'm done with Britain and the people of Britain... Why not ?, I think like many of us he may realise that the time for giving chances and hoping against hope for outcomes is over ! It’s literally no good replacing shit with shit anymore, May as well not have them and prolong the agony. And yes, Reform has said what we want to hear and now they are starting to sing a very different song with all the same people that have betrayed us for decades…..we can’t afford to not keep believing our eyes, we literally as a people, don’t have long enough left to live ! Britain will be minority white British in 3 parliaments !……3 !!! We don’t have time to hope reform are just “playing the game” What I’m seeing is pakis at the top, traitors given a new lease of life, not wanting to talk about uncomfortable things, people being sacked without mercy for saying hurty words 10 years ago or having once broken some bullshit rule or the other. Same people, same outcomes….we all know it’s true but we want to sing ourselves a song ! There can be no more “chances”, we can’t afford them ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 8,946 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago I don't want much , all illegals gone, out of echr , death penalty, chain gangs , benefits gone for non UK nationals, borders protected , energy cost halved , and most importantly potholes filled and maybe size of government reduced , possibly do away with devolution Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 52,276 Posted 2 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Borr said: In what way are they creeping to the left? I optimistically feel they are currently acting in a popularist manner , and once in power will harden their approach, but maybe I'm being naive. Exhibit A: Employing a load of socialist, globalist career traitors who put us in this shit in the first place ? Exhibit B: Trying to be “centre ground” in a political system that's so far left Joseph Stalin would feel at home in the Tory’s ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 52,276 Posted 2 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, Borr said: I don't want much , all illegals gone, out of echr , death penalty, chain gangs , benefits gone for non UK nationals, borders protected , energy cost halved , and most importantly potholes filled and maybe size of government reduced , possibly do away with devolution And what leads you to the conclusion that Jenrick, Braverman and all the f***ing others will do any of that when they didn’t see fit to try for the entirety of the political career ? In fact, were totally comfortable to be part of and support regimes that did precisely the opposite. Edited 2 hours ago by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 8,946 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, WILF said: Why not ?, I think like many of us he may realise that the time for giving chances and hoping against hope for outcomes is over ! It’s literally no good replacing shit with shit anymore, May as well not have them and prolong the agony. And yes, Reform has said what we want to hear and now they are starting to sing a very different song with all the same people that have betrayed us for decades…..we can’t afford to not keep believing our eyes, we literally as a people, don’t have long enough left to live ! Britain will be minority white British in 3 parliaments !……3 !!! We don’t have time to hope reform are just “playing the game” What I’m seeing is pakis at the top, traitors given a new lease of life, not wanting to talk about uncomfortable things, people being sacked without mercy for saying hurty words 10 years ago or having once broken some bullshit rule or the other. Same people, same outcomes….we all know it’s true but we want to sing ourselves a song ! There can be no more “chances”, we can’t afford them ! Do you really believe Rupert can achieve this? I personally think reform are last chance saloon for UK. After that it's everyone for themselves. It's possible Rupert can go back on for reform, especially if the establishment whack farage, mad times let's see what comes but what I do know is I don't want a leftie liberal namby pamby coalition and neither do I want a conservative reform coalition or any coalition tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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