Epstein files.

[jukel123 9,618]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

Can you ?, lucky I’m not like that and judging you that way isn’t it.

And look, when it comes to Epstein I’ll tell everyone a more logical theory as to why those people were on that island.

JE was in finance, he was obviously a major networker, the people he gathered around him were also mega wealthy…..so what do you do?….you say “Here, get on my private jet and come and have a holiday on my island” and while they are there you casually mention some latest fund you are managing and wouldn’t They like to drop a 100 million in it because the kind of Botswana and John Travolta just did ! 
That sounds much more plausible than 200 of the most famous faces on planet earth who are constantly under media scrutiny thinking “yeah, let’s fly off and nonce some under age girls….what could possibly go wrong ?” 
 

I don’t know it for a fact but my logical, non hysterical head says that’s more likely the case……not very exciting I know !

You may be right. But no other financial high fliers,hedge fund managers and the like can remember doing business with him. Which has led to speculation that his business was blackmailing the rich . That he had video tapes of their dastardly deeds.

I'm only repeating one article. Who knows?

Did he really commit suicide or was he bumped off?

Maxwell has been moved to a cushy prison after meeting  the Don. She had better play ball imo or she might end up like her former boyfriend.

Stormy Daniels alleged that mysterious men threatened her daughter's  life before the trial.

 

 

 

 

[WILF 50,903]

Just now, jukel123 said:

You may be right. But no other financial high fliers,hedge fund managers and the like can remember doing business with him. Which has led to speculation that his business was blackmailing the rich . That he had video tapes of their dastardly deeds.

I'm only repeating one article. Who knows?

Did he really commit suicide or was he bumped off?

Maxwell has been moved to a cushy prison after meeting  the Don. She had better play ball imo or she might end up like her former boyfriend.

Stormy Daniels alleged that mysterious men threatened her daughter's  life before the trial.

 

 

 

 

Yep, wouldn’t put any of it past anyone but there is speculation and there’s proof !…….normally the most boring answer is true. 

[jukel123 9,618]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

Nobody attacks your viewpoint when you don’t talk shit….theres a motto for you to remember old chap ! lol 

No, no you're all agin me just cos I'm a soppy old leftie under my wife's jack boot. She's calling  me now ." Tea now! you limp cocked, pissy old man.

One of these days I'm going to point blank refuse to make her any more tea. But not tonight,I need to build up my testosterone reserves.

I'm on my way my darling oh she who must be revered and obeyed.

[Halfhound 391]

Heavy hitting tonight lads. I’ll agree with Jukel here I reckon Trump, McGregor and whoever else is probably a tramp who it would be in anyone’s best interest not to associate with them. I was always told and have followed the principle that you can nearly always judge a man by how he treats his wife or partner and kids. If they’ll f**k over the people they love the most what chance has anyone else got with them? And yes they can have the same views as me and we could agree on 1000 different things but would I share a high stool with either of them for a drink or shake their hands? Not a f***ing chance 

[jukel123 9,618]

Afterthought, and a bit of self congratulation. Despite growing up in a house where domestic violence was common, I've never hit my wife or my kids ever. And I always  put food and goodies  on the table to the best of my ability.I also never played away. I've seen how devastating that is for all concerned. That's a choice people proper bloke's make.

All this bull crap about raping, choking and f****n women up the arse is literally  beyond my understanding.

We're going back to f****n caveman days  in terms of sexual morality. All normalised by Trump Tate and McGregor. No amount of discussion can change that fact.

 

Edited Monday at 19:38 by jukel123

[Halfhound 391]

1 minute ago, jukel123 said:

Afterthought, and a bit of smug, self congratulation. Despite growing up in a house where domestic violence was common, I've never hit my wife or my kids ever. And I always  put food and goodies  on the table to the best of my ability.I also never played away. I've seen how devastating that is for all concerned. That's a choice people proper bloke's make.

All this bull crap about raping, choking and f****n women up the arse is literally  beyond my understanding.

We're going back to f****n caveman days  in terms of sexual morality. All normalised by Trump Tate and McGre. No amount of discussion can change that fact.

 

A good catholic man well done my friend. You must of listened to the Christian brothers in school like me ha ha

[Bendigo 1,166]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

Afterthought, and a bit of self congratulation. Despite growing up in a house where domestic violence was common, I've never hit my wife or my kids ever. And I always  put food and goodies  on the table to the best of my ability.I also never played away. I've seen how devastating that is for all concerned. That's a choice people proper bloke's make.

All this bull crap about raping, choking and f****n women up the arse is literally  beyond my understanding.

We're going back to f****n caveman days  in terms of sexual morality. All normalised by Trump Tate and McGregor. No amount of discussion can change that fact.

 

If you had actually listened to anything Tate had actually discussed in any depth you would see he stands for the absolute opposite of what you have just described. You are just parroting what others tell you. 

You need to learn to think for yourself

Did the Clintons get you so indignant on women's behalf? No? Because you weren't instructed to!

 

[WILF 50,903]

2 hours ago, jukel123 said:

Afterthought, and a bit of self congratulation. Despite growing up in a house where domestic violence was common, I've never hit my wife or my kids ever. And I always  put food and goodies  on the table to the best of my ability.I also never played away. I've seen how devastating that is for all concerned. That's a choice people proper bloke's make.

All this bull crap about raping, choking and f****n women up the arse is literally  beyond my understanding.

We're going back to f****n caveman days  in terms of sexual morality. All normalised by Trump Tate and McGregor. No amount of discussion can change that fact.

 

Mate, there’s a lot of women putting themselves in that position too….its the age we live in, a price for everything and a value for nothing.

There’s birds jetting off to Dubai to let Arabs have a shit in their mouth !…..what a f***ing world huh ?

And that is my point really, we live in an age of fantasy over cold reality, we don’t need to join the club in any way, shape or form.

Like we talked about before with Palestine protestors, today they are victims of wild rhetoric (and we all cheer) and tomorrow it’s us……just don’t f***ing join in mate. 

Edited Monday at 21:41 by WILF

[WILF 50,903]

2 hours ago, Halfhound said:

Heavy hitting tonight lads. I’ll agree with Jukel here I reckon Trump, McGregor and whoever else is probably a tramp who it would be in anyone’s best interest not to associate with them. I was always told and have followed the principle that you can nearly always judge a man by how he treats his wife or partner and kids. If they’ll f**k over the people they love the most what chance has anyone else got with them? And yes they can have the same views as me and we could agree on 1000 different things but would I share a high stool with either of them for a drink or shake their hands? Not a f***ing chance 

Agree with all that, and the fact is we don’t have to share a a stool or a beer with them…..but if they are saying things half the planet is saying or listening to then the most powerful bloke in the world probably should. 

[Born Hunter 17,959]

I’m not particularly filled with a need to seek justice for the girls, to fight the elite, or for that matter to indulge in ‘conspiracies’… however the Epstein story absolutely stinks!

Having watched and listened to various bits on it I lean towards believing that he was exceptionally good at manipulating people to his own ends. I think he created a socially elite circle that many of the worlds rich and powerful wanted to be a part of. Naturally it was the circle to be in if you wanted to achieve ultra high level business or social success. And then I think he did what many men in history have done in his shoes and used that position and his already established sex working/pedo activities for the ultimate leverage on those powerful people that fell for it. And I think that goes deeper than we will ever really know.

Does that mean everyone who ever went to that island to meet the man is guilty, no. You can’t run an operation like that without a front, and that front was legitimate elite networking. It’s also worth mentioning the island was just the most notorious of his residences, it goes way beyond just an island.