Moocher71 4,107 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 11 hours ago, hounddog3 said: She should never have done a day in prison the system let her down at every turn. The so called system is fcuked and as been for a long time , It's laughable to think that people honestly believe reform are going to be any better than the cnuts running the show now ? They all like to talk and promise they are going to do this and that to get votes but once in they are thinking of themselves and fcuk us over . 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,626 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Moocher71 said: The so called system is fcuked and as been for a long time , It's laughable to think that people honestly believe reform are going to be any better than the cnuts running the show now ? They all like to talk and promise they are going to do this and that to get votes but once in they are thinking of themselves and fcuk us over . At the risk of repeating myself. Reform should and will get a chance, but one only because the people have caught on. If Farage and reform get in and don't start doing what they claim they're going to do pretty damn quick, like straight away quick then we'll all know that no politics of any persuasion will sort this shit out Down to the people after that. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,943 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago First thing they need to do when they get in is higher the amount you can earn before paying tax. Straight away I got more money going in the bank which will be bloody welcome. I’ve not forgot mr farage next sink few boats then you got your self a happy camper literally 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moocher71 4,107 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, mackay said: At the risk of repeating myself. Reform should and will get a chance, but one only because the people have caught on. If Farage and reform get in and don't start doing what they claim they're going to do pretty damn quick, like straight away quick then we'll all know that no politics of any persuasion will sort this shit out Down to the people after that. I can tell you now if they get in they will come out with are "hands are tied " reform are just conservative with a different name . I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am . As for it's down to the people that's a joke it's the people that voted the clowns in . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 48,779 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Farage is no different to Blair, Johnson,Starmer or anyone before them...all smoke and mirrors...say what they think,you all want too hear all treacherous cnuts taking a wage and whatever back handers and sweeteners they can get, before they're found out and f****d off.... nothing will chance until there's migrant and MP's bodies on every street corner imo.... 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,626 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Moocher71 said: I can tell you now if they get in they will come out with are "hands are tied " reform are just conservative with a different name . I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am . As for it's down to the people that's a joke it's the people that voted the clowns in . And again, like I said, if that's the case we'll know then voting for any political party is pointless. What happens after that is open to speculation. Reform is the last throw of the dice, not just for us plebs but for the elite who would control us as well. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,929 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago If not Reform UK , then who ? The Lab/Lib/Con uniparty have proven conclusively that they aren’t up to the job. The Greens? Corbyn’s new muslim supporting party ? No , that would be going from bad to worse. The only creditable alternative is Reform. At least they are SAYING what the majority of us want to hear…..let’s give them a chance to DO what the majority of us want. Will they be able to change things immediately ? No, because after five years of Labours tax, borrow, spend the country will be on its knees……if not bankrupt and needing another bailout by the IMF as happened in the 70’s under a Labour government. I can’t see an alternative to Reform, other than a military coup or a revolution, and neither of them are going to happen. So, I’ll vote Reform at every opportunity and hope for the best. Cheers. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,291 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Its a shot to nothing for reform, if it goes tits up then the people will kick off as has been said, but think of it this way, the support from around the world would be outstanding if we go the reform route 1st because if its gloves off after that then the world will have seen that we tried every last peaceful way to no avail and would support the british cause 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moocher71 4,107 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 21 minutes ago, chartpolski said: If not Reform UK , then who ? The Lab/Lib/Con uniparty have proven conclusively that they aren’t up to the job. The Greens? Corbyn’s new muslim supporting party ? No , that would be going from bad to worse. The only creditable alternative is Reform. At least they are SAYING what the majority of us want to hear…..let’s give them a chance to DO what the majority of us want. Will they be able to change things immediately ? No, because after five years of Labours tax, borrow, spend the country will be on its knees……if not bankrupt and needing another bailout by the IMF as happened in the 70’s under a Labour government. I can’t see an alternative to Reform, other than a military coup or a revolution, and neither of them are going to happen. So, I’ll vote Reform at every opportunity and hope for the best. Cheers. Charts let's get it straight the conservatives were in for years and they fcuking ruined the country and Labour is doing the same , A Majority of conservative MPs are joining reform ,you no the very same ones that helped ruin England in first place and it's laughable how people are believing they will be any different under a different name? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moocher71 4,107 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 2 hours ago, terryd said: First thing they need to do when they get in is higher the amount you can earn before paying tax. Straight away I got more money going in the bank which will be bloody welcome. I’ve not forgot mr farage next sink few boats then you got your self a happy camper literally I don't see that happening, saying something and doing it is two different things? I want to ,I'd like to ,I'm hoping to We've heard all that before haven't we ? They will do nothing but get rich and we my friend will get poorer. Edited 1 hour ago by Moocher71 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,929 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 18 minutes ago, Moocher71 said: Charts let's get it straight the conservatives were in for years and they fcuking ruined the country and Labour is doing the same , A Majority of conservative MPs are joining reform ,you no the very same ones that helped ruin England in first place and it's laughable how people are believing they will be any different under a different name? Reform are refusing a lot of current and ex Tory’s, I don’t think one current Tory MP has crossed the floor to Reform ? They refused Suella Braverman but not a lot has been said about that. Brexit wasn’t fully implemented because more than half the Tory PLP are more like LibDems, but Tory’s from the ERG and the Spartans are more like Reform , but the “wets” on the left of the Tory PLP are dominant. As I said, what’s the alternative to Reform ? I can’t guarantee they would be better than the legacy parties, but I’m willing to give them a try. If we carry on down this road, the country will be finished. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,884 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Reform are refusing a lot of current and ex Tory’s, I don’t think one current Tory MP has crossed the floor to Reform ? They refused Suella Braverman but not a lot has been said about that. Brexit wasn’t fully implemented because more than half the Tory PLP are more like LibDems, but Tory’s from the ERG and the Spartans are more like Reform , but the “wets” on the left of the Tory PLP are dominant. As I said, what’s the alternative to Reform ? I can’t guarantee they would be better than the legacy parties, but I’m willing to give them a try. If we carry on down this road, the country will be finished. Cheers. 242 con MPs , 11 have joined reform... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,884 Posted 54 minutes ago Report Share Posted 54 minutes ago I think in reality Farage needs to find the best people and it's probably going to include a few of the status quo singing from another hymn sheet. As I've said before many people with the right mindset for reform wouldn't have had that choice before, they could've possibly tried to be independent but to make a real difference you need to get near the top which previously would've meant cons, labour possibly liberal party, now we have reform.. I think it's gonna be a messy divisive road to power , but we'll get there . Hopefully with the help of media platforms , GB news etc people will not be duped by the standard BBC channel 4 , guardian nonsense. Whitehall is preparing to go all out after Farage and his allies , using intelligence services and whatever means they have at their disposal. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bendigo 835 Posted 41 minutes ago Report Share Posted 41 minutes ago 57 minutes ago, Moocher71 said: Charts let's get it straight the conservatives were in for years and they fcuking ruined the country and Labour is doing the same , A Majority of conservative MPs are joining reform ,you no the very same ones that helped ruin England in first place and it's laughable how people are believing they will be any different under a different name? "A majority of conservative mps...." Not strictly true that is it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moocher71 4,107 Posted 28 minutes ago Report Share Posted 28 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Bendigo said: "A majority of conservative mps...." Not strictly true that is it well it's not 0 is it ? Someone just posted 11 and how many do you think it will be in the end ? And maybe I should have said the majority of MPs leaving are going to reform. I was chatting to the reform MP for my area when they was knocking doors and he blatantly said reform and conservative party should become one as in his view it was the only way forward. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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