Do you give to the homeless?

[waltjnr 7,909]

Don't know who said it ,but I grew up with tramps ,old dirty looking fellas ,had just opted out of society, for what ever reason ,not youngsters giving up on life before even starting, sleeping in shop doorways, on drugs ,just seems the downward spiral of our society 

[tatsblisters 10,929]

What winds me up about the young British beggar's i see is they have let the system and their life style choices beat them to resign themselves to sitting in shop doorways begging for money.

[mC HULL 15,543]

On 12/07/2025 at 21:49, mushroom said:

I see the cnuts like DC mentioned as responsible. Not politics or politicians. The Joe's and Turks were shipping it in and the shitcunts like DC mentioned were selling it to their own to make a pound note.

it’s was our goverment and yanks invaded afghan in 2000 mate and hooked there own on the opioid epidemic ? 

the brits controlled the shit for hundreds a years mate they have done the same from china to america 

[fireman 11,353]

3 hours ago, mC HULL said:

it’s was our goverment and yanks invaded afghan in 2000 mate and hooked there own on the opioid epidemic ? 

the brits controlled the shit for hundreds a years mate they have done the same from china to america 

When the russians were in Afghanistan we used to get kilo's of black hash with "Help smoke the Russians out of Afghanistan" stamped on the blocks in gold...Drugs and wars go together and always have done..  

[fireman 11,353]

4 hours ago, tatsblisters said:

What winds me up about the young British beggar's i see is they have let the system and their life style choices beat them to resign themselves to sitting in shop doorways begging for money.

That is true,but once there it's hard to get started and many folk are stuck as it's easier to just stay in the status quo as such without outside help and who helps street living junkies apart from a hand out now and again...

Time for my story ,,

I have taken drugs since i was a teenager just for the buzz like many have done, all sorts of drugs but never had a problem with any of them as i just casually used them..I debt collected for a lass i knew and got given a car instead of money and sold the car for drugs worth more than the debt so i turned them over and i ended up testing the gear far more than i should have and woke up one day with a habit. I used to have my own truck and do scrap etc,misses and kids, well no matter how functioning you think your are it eats away at everything and she left with the kids and i was stood homeless, the truck was soon took off me as i put in a fivers worth of petrol with no money and spent a month in HMP Woodhill because of it. Now out the gate with feck all and only junkies as mates i was soon back at it and tried to get away and go live on hippy sites with a caravan but they didn't want me about even though most were old mates (who does want a junkie around them ?) so i ended up in town and living as best i could untill some dear old friends came and picked me up on day and drove me to west wales,gave me a place to rattle it out and they cared and looked after me until i was better..Fast forward just over 23 years and i have a misses i have been with for 21 years now and have been a proper dad to our bonus child who left school this year, my other kids have had me back in their lives and last year i bought a house,so getting their albeit a bit late in life..Karma is a bitch and all that but my life sort of needed it to happen to teach me some humbleness and generally make me a far better person and to teach me to keep somethings in a box shut tight..

Which sort of leads me on to folks who say drugs made them do something bad, now i haven't ever had drugs make me do anything but i have done some horrid things for drug money and this next bit is going to sound like i'm trying to be something i sure ain't but i would still kidnap people and torture them if they hurt or were a threat to my family,i would steal (by the way never robbed a mans tools or a mans house, just traffic light gennies and derv sort of thing) if my family needed feeding and there really was no other way to. These thing i did and done for drug money but drugs never made me do them, if drugs put in something that wasn't there to start with we'd all just drug curs and have super dogs, those scroats who rob grannies will have always been scroats who would have robbed a grannie had there been reason enough to do so,drugs like booze might bring the moral barriers down a bit but they can't put in what ain't in there already imo... I was lucky in i had friends who helped me help myself in  not just getting clean but in helping me box those actions that would have found me locked up or dead and keep them boxed up. Hope this rambling sort of makes sence and like i said no trying to be anything but truthful as this was all over 20 years ago but it still lives with me every day in some way or another, like even answering this topic.. ..,

[tatsblisters 10,929]

21 minutes ago, fireman said:

That is true,but once there it's hard to get started and many folk are stuck as it's easier to just stay in the status quo as such without outside help and who helps street living junkies apart from a hand out now and again...

Time for my story ,,

I have taken drugs since i was a teenager just for the buzz like many have done, all sorts of drugs but never had a problem with any of them as i just casually used them..I debt collected for a lass i knew and got given a car instead of money and sold the car for drugs worth more than the debt so i turned them over and i ended up testing the gear far more than i should have and woke up one day with a habit. I used to have my own truck and do scrap etc,misses and kids, well no matter how functioning you think your are it eats away at everything and she left with the kids and i was stood homeless, the truck was soon took off me as i put in a fivers worth of petrol with no money and spent a month in HMP Woodhill because of it. Now out the gate with feck all and only junkies as mates i was soon back at it and tried to get away and go live on hippy sites with a caravan but they didn't want me about even though most were old mates (who does want a junkie around them ?) so i ended up in town and living as best i could untill some dear old friends came and picked me up on day and drove me to west wales,gave me a place to rattle it out and they cared and looked after me until i was better..Fast forward just over 23 years and i have a misses i have been with for 21 years now and have been a proper dad to our bonus child who left school this year, my other kids have had me back in their lives and last year i bought a house,so getting their albeit a bit late in life..Karma is a bitch and all that but my life sort of needed it to happen to teach me some humbleness and generally make me a far better person and to teach me to keep somethings in a box shut tight..

Which sort of leads me on to folks who say drugs made them do something bad, now i haven't ever had drugs make me do anything but i have done some horrid things for drug money and this next bit is going to sound like i'm trying to be something i sure ain't but i would still kidnap people and torture them if they hurt or were a threat to my family,i would steal (by the way never robbed a mans tools or a mans house, just traffic light gennies and derv sort of thing) if my family needed feeding and there really was no other way to. These thing i did and done for drug money but drugs never made me do them, if drugs put in something that wasn't there to start with we'd all just drug curs and have super dogs, those scroats who rob grannies will have always been scroats who would have robbed a grannie had there been reason enough to do so,drugs like booze might bring the moral barriers down a bit but they can't put in what ain't in there already imo... I was lucky in i had friends who helped me help myself in  not just getting clean but in helping me box those actions that would have found me locked up or dead and keep them boxed up. Hope this rambling sort of makes sence and like i said no trying to be anything but truthful as this was all over 20 years ago but it still lives with me every day in some way or another, like even answering this topic.. ..,

That's a fair reply mate. And your comments have given me food for thought as I am lucky in one respect I haven't got an addictive personality and I suppose it's wrong in a way for people like me to not understand why some folks go down that road.

[Daniel cain 48,293]

3 hours ago, fireman said:

When the russians were in Afghanistan we used to get kilo's of black hash with "Help smoke the Russians out of Afghanistan" stamped on the blocks in gold...Drugs and wars go together and always have done..  

Lol....or Not for Sale in the USA

[fireman 11,353]

5 hours ago, tatsblisters said:

That's a fair reply mate. And your comments have given me food for thought as I am lucky in one respect I haven't got an addictive personality and I suppose it's wrong in a way for people like me to not understand why some folks go down that road.

It's not wrong not to understand something mate and i don't know even where to start with a answer to the problem or reason to homelessness or drug addition, i just sort of been there and thought i'd just share some self knowledge of the subject rather than try to adjust folks thinking of the subject. 

[eastcoast 4,489]

10 hours ago, mC HULL said:

it’s was our goverment and yanks invaded afghan in 2000 mate and hooked there own on the opioid epidemic ? 

the brits controlled the shit for hundreds a years mate they have done the same from china to america 

Just yesterday I was reading about the 2nd Opium War between us and China. It kicked off when the Chinese boarded a British ship called the Lorcha. I immediately thought it must have been owned by a Geordie but reading further the vessel was called the Arrow and a lorcha is term given to a hybrid trading vessel incorporating aspects of both European and Chinese design. 

[mackem 29,521]

Sat down on a kerbside with an old lady the other day,gave her a few dollars,everything she owned in a supermarket trolley,very polite lady,I didn’t ask personal questions just chatted about her experiences on the street,streetlife is brutal,she was old enough to be a grandmother,now she lives alone on a baking hot sidewalk,life’s a hard grind on the street.

[mitre 226]

Alot of them are fake by ours they do a shift pattern and some you don't see for months then show up in good clean clothes and a smartphone sit down then one or two others show up in their begging gang and run for the bus then one looks at his watch picks up his back leaves his rubbish and food then a other one shows up on a mountain bike on the scrounge 

[mackem 29,521]

18 hours ago, mitre said:

Alot of them are fake by ours they do a shift pattern and some you don't see for months then show up in good clean clothes and a smartphone sit down then one or two others show up in their begging gang and run for the bus then one looks at his watch picks up his back leaves his rubbish and food then a other one shows up on a mountain bike on the scrounge 

Some have had a f****d up start to life through no fault of their own,massive mental health issues,but how to help?California is richer than the country of Japan but massive,massive amount of homeless that have slipped through the net and are in desperate need of care.

[fireman 11,353]

1 hour ago, mackem said:

Some have had a f****d up start to life through no fault of their own,massive mental health issues,but how to help?California is richer than the country of Japan but massive,massive amount of homeless that have slipped through the net and are in desperate need of care.

I'd say a good few go there for the money that is there and the fact the weather is nice most of the time, that lady you were speaking to the other day is on a baking street now,come winter she'll be well sub zero and that's when it gets real hard on the streets in winter when it's cold and wet..

[Seagull 282]

2 hours ago, mackem said:

Some have had a f****d up start to life through no fault of their own,massive mental health issues,but how to help?California is richer than the country of Japan but massive,massive amount of homeless that have slipped through the net and are in desperate need of care.

I hope Liver King gets the help he needs.

[Halfhound 7]

From the small number maybe 15 people I know who ended up on gear I’d say 8 are dead before 50 years of age. And nearly all of them ended up on it while doing a stretch and couldn’t ever shake it off then.