ditchman 2,996 Posted June 13 Report Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, mackem said: I actually used to feel safer flying PIA than Air India Charts Try flying SABENA or Air Uganda...............they were real nicker gripers SABENA unfortunatley works out as "such a bloody experience never again".............one of the best airlines i flew on was Air Ethiopia........their planes were old but superbly maintained ....i think when PanAm folded ..alot of engineers went to work for them ..taking their skills with them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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chartpolski 26,565 Posted Saturday at 13:44 Report Share Posted Saturday at 13:44 18 hours ago, ditchman said: Try flying SABENA or Air Uganda...............they were real nicker gripers SABENA unfortunatley works out as "such a bloody experience never again".............one of the best airlines i flew on was Air Ethiopia........their planes were old but superbly maintained ....i think when PanAm folded ..alot of engineers went to work for them ..taking their skills with them When Saudi Arabia decided to have a national airline, they turned to America and TWA was given the contract to develop and run the airline. It was manned almost exclusively by American personnel, coincidentally, the Saudi Airforce was run mainly by Lockheed with British and American instructors. When Saudi Arabian Airlines decided to have a Major Base in Jeddah, they turned to mainly British Engineers, the majority coming from Rolls Royce in Derby and British Airways in Cardiff, and people like myself who were already employed in the Middle East aircraft businesses. It took over 70 years before the workforce was “Saudi-ized “ but there’s still a core of western engineers. Most, if not all , third world countries airlines have depended mainly on western expertise, but in the last few years the Chinese have been making inroads. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ditchman 2,996 Posted Saturday at 14:57 Report Share Posted Saturday at 14:57 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: When Saudi Arabia decided to have a national airline, they turned to America and TWA was given the contract to develop and run the airline. It was manned almost exclusively by American personnel, coincidentally, the Saudi Airforce was run mainly by Lockheed with British and American instructors. When Saudi Arabian Airlines decided to have a Major Base in Jeddah, they turned to mainly British Engineers, the majority coming from Rolls Royce in Derby and British Airways in Cardiff, and people like myself who were already employed in the Middle East aircraft businesses. It took over 70 years before the workforce was “Saudi-ized “ but there’s still a core of western engineers. Most, if not all , third world countries airlines have depended mainly on western expertise, but in the last few years the Chinese have been making inroads. Cheers. interesting...cheers for that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,316 Posted Saturday at 20:41 Report Share Posted Saturday at 20:41 𝐏𝐢𝐧 𝐋𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐠𝐞 ™ (@pinlounge) • Instagram reel WWW.INSTAGRAM.COM 82K likes, 913 comments - pinlounge on June 13, 2025: "Sole survivor". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 28,000 Posted Saturday at 21:00 Report Share Posted Saturday at 21:00 Am I the only one that can't watch these Instagram vids? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 3,297 Posted Sunday at 04:35 Report Share Posted Sunday at 04:35 7 hours ago, TOMO said: Am I the only one that can't watch these Instagram vids? I don't have Instagram, so I can't watch them either tomo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 28,000 Posted Sunday at 08:11 Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:11 On 13/06/2025 at 19:49, ditchman said: Try flying SABENA or Air Uganda...............they were real nicker gripers SABENA unfortunatley works out as "such a bloody experience never again".............one of the best airlines i flew on was Air Ethiopia........their planes were old but superbly maintained ....i think when PanAm folded ..alot of engineers went to work for them ..taking their skills with them I flew with Air Zambia in 1990 to south Africa...I had never herd of them....and my worries were confirmed when I saw them loading the luggage on to the planes roof rack 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,316 Posted Monday at 10:57 Report Share Posted Monday at 10:57 On 13/06/2025 at 10:00, chartpolski said: I’m ready to be corrected but aren’t P.I.A. owned by the same company as British Steel and jaguar Land Rover , TATA ? Cheers. Pakistan are in diplomatic negotiations with the UK they will take their grooming gangs back after they serve a UK prison sentence in exchange for UK allowing PIA flights to resume. Grooming gangs: Pakistan demands airline resume flights to Britain amid grooming gang deportation diplomacy WWW.GBNEWS.COM The Pakistan Government has lobbied for Pakistan International Airlines to fly to Britain as ministers... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 26,565 Posted Monday at 11:05 Report Share Posted Monday at 11:05 4 minutes ago, mackem said: Pakistan are in diplomatic negotiations with the UK they will take their grooming gangs back after they serve a UK prison sentence in exchange for UK allowing PIA flights to resume. Grooming gangs: Pakistan demands airline resume flights to Britain amid grooming gang deportation diplomacy WWW.GBNEWS.COM The Pakistan Government has lobbied for Pakistan International Airlines to fly to Britain as ministers... “Pakistan demands….”. ”Mauritius demands…” Spain demands ….” ”France demands…” Oh for the good old days when these demands would have been met with a salvo from a gun boat ! Now they are met with another Starmer capitulation…! Cheers. 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,316 Posted Monday at 11:51 Report Share Posted Monday at 11:51 45 minutes ago, chartpolski said: “Pakistan demands…. 2023-24 UK gave Pakistan £41.55 million in foreign aid 24-25 it’s gone up to £133 million,squeeze them financially. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 26,565 Posted Monday at 13:54 Report Share Posted Monday at 13:54 1 hour ago, mackem said: 2023-24 UK gave Pakistan £41.55 million in foreign aid 24-25 it’s gone up to £133 million,squeeze them financially. Just tell them we are pausing issuing visas and aid until they agree to take the rapists back. In the meantime the cost of keeping the rapists in jail will come from the aid we would have sent to Pakistan. Sounds simple to me ! Cheers. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,743 Posted Monday at 14:09 Report Share Posted Monday at 14:09 On 14/06/2025 at 15:44, chartpolski said: When Saudi Arabia decided to have a national airline, they turned to America and TWA was given the contract to develop and run the airline. It was manned almost exclusively by American personnel, coincidentally, the Saudi Airforce was run mainly by Lockheed with British and American instructors. When Saudi Arabian Airlines decided to have a Major Base in Jeddah, they turned to mainly British Engineers, the majority coming from Rolls Royce in Derby and British Airways in Cardiff, and people like myself who were already employed in the Middle East aircraft businesses. It took over 70 years before the workforce was “Saudi-ized “ but there’s still a core of western engineers. Most, if not all , third world countries airlines have depended mainly on western expertise, but in the last few years the Chinese have been making inroads. Cheers. One of my best mates is in Saud, working on the military side (fairy) if I remember correcly. I did some work for BAE years ago in Warton and Frekleton on the houses they had for visiting Sauds in regards to the Eurofighter (Typhoon). One of the lads made a joke that they taught them how to take off but not land the fuuckers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 26,565 Posted Monday at 14:25 Report Share Posted Monday at 14:25 7 minutes ago, mushroom said: One of my best mates is in Saud, working on the military side (fairy) if I remember correcly. I did some work for BAE years ago in Warton and Frekleton on the houses they had for visiting Sauds in regards to the Eurofighter (Typhoon). One of the lads made a joke that they taught them how to take off but not land the fuuckers I worked on the military side as a contractor for Lockheed at the Air Defence Centre in Riyadh as a Specialist instructor to the Royal Saudi Air Force, and on the civilian side directly for Saudia Airlines at Jeddah Back in the 70’s I had the choice of a lot of jobs; working on a British Antarctic Survey ship, working on the oil rigs for Santa Fe UK, etc; but none could get near the salary and conditions the Saudis were offering. The only job I was offered that came near to the Saudis was when I was offered a job as Engineer at the Power station on Grand Bahama, but I was committed to going to Saudi . The choices in life can have strange outcomes, but I’m generally happy with the choices I’ve made ! Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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