Benefits

[TRUEBRIT66 2,055]

13 hours ago, mushroom said:

I’ve refused to pay anything towards my UK state pension since I moved here. I’m constantly bombarded with “opportunities” to top it up… yeah right! Go fuuck yourselves giving my future to a bunch of illegal immigrants! I’ll sort myself out thank you. 

Always found that one strange 35 years paying in to get full pension so if you started work at 16 you should either stop paying or be able to retire at 51. In essence you continue paying until your "official" retirement age another 16 years for no added benefit?

[Arry 24,474]

3 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Always found that one strange 35 years paying in to get full pension so if you started work at 16 you should either stop paying or be able to retire at 51. In essence you continue paying until your "official" retirement age another 16 years for no added benefit?

I started work at 16 as you said carried on working to 66 even though I could have retire at 65. Because I opted out of something for two year when I work in a factory on maintenance I don't get a full pension.

Them that work hard all their lives seem to get penalised and them that dos around get it all handed to them. Like the ones that grafted struggled to buy a house, it will get taken off to pay care when old. People that dossed did f**k all will get their care for free.

Cheers Arry

[WILF 49,541]

52 minutes ago, Arry said:

I started work at 16 as you said carried on working to 66 even though I could have retire at 65. Because I opted out of something for two year when I work in a factory on maintenance I don't get a full pension.

Them that work hard all their lives seem to get penalised and them that dos around get it all handed to them. Like the ones that grafted struggled to buy a house, it will get taken off to pay care when old. People that dossed did f**k all will get their care for free.

Cheers Arry

Your last line struck me a bit mate, I don’t agree that some old people when they reach that age and get it for free “dossed and did f**k all”…..I’d say, with old British people that’s certainly not the case.

The vast majority of them worked from 14, the women were housewives, mothers, cleaners, shop workers….the men may have just had a life of cash doing various things……not been fully in the system.

It’s the lie that becomes the common truth, it what these dogs in government want folks to believe and it’s just not true……either not being fully connected to the system or choosing not to get abused isn’t dossing.

Some lads can’t avoid it, that’s just the way it is but it don’t make people who can and do bad people…..it’s just the luck of the draw and how circumstances pan out. 
 

 

[Arry 24,474]

8 hours ago, WILF said:

Your last line struck me a bit mate, I don’t agree that some old people when they reach that age and get it for free “dossed and did f**k all”…..I’d say, with old British people that’s certainly not the case.

The vast majority of them worked from 14, the women were housewives, mothers, cleaners, shop workers….the men may have just had a life of cash doing various things……not been fully in the system.

It’s the lie that becomes the common truth, it what these dogs in government want folks to believe and it’s just not true……either not being fully connected to the system or choosing not to get abused isn’t dossing.

Some lads can’t avoid it, that’s just the way it is but it don’t make people who can and do bad people…..it’s just the luck of the draw and how circumstances pan out. 
 

 

I'm not talking about them Wilf i'm talking about the work shy that chose not to do any kind of work. The Benefit street fuckers the leaches that get there care payed for that contributed nothing.

Cheers Arry

Edited March 21 by Arry

[WILF 49,541]

2 minutes ago, Arry said:

I'm not talking about them Wilf i'm talking about the work shy that chose not to do any kind of work. The Benefit sheet fuckers the leaches that get there care payed for that contributed nothing.

Cheers Arry

I’m sure you was mate, but I always think what do they looks like, what’s the criteria for them being that, how do you pick them out and are they really around in such numbers as to make them have any meaningful impact on anything ? 
I think they are one of those urban myths…..like they exist but actually there’s one of them but in peoples mind there are thousands.

I can hand on heart say I have genuinely never given a shit about someone on the jam roll, even the complete wastes of space (which funny enough I have seen increase as the country meanders its way further down the globalist road) …….they have never impacted what I do or will do, I do my thing and they do theirs and that’s the end of it.

If they can get a living f***ing over a system that abuses everyone anyway then more power to their elbow….who am I to judge.

It’s just one set of very minor criminals f***ing over the biggest criminal enterprise going…….i have absolutely no problem with that at all. 

[Arry 24,474]

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

I’m sure you was mate, but I always think what do they looks like, what’s the criteria for them being that, how do you pick them out and are they really around in such numbers as to make them have any meaningful impact on anything ? 
I think they are one of those urban myths…..like they exist but actually there’s one of them but in peoples mind there are thousands.

I can hand on heart say I have genuinely never given a shit about someone on the jam roll, even the complete wastes of space (which funny enough I have seen increase as the country meanders its way further down the globalist road) …….they have never impacted what I do or will do, I do my thing and they do theirs and that’s the end of it.

If they can get a living f***ing over a system that abuses everyone anyway then more power to their elbow….who am I to judge.

It’s just one set of very minor criminals f***ing over the biggest criminal enterprise going…….i have absolutely no problem with that at all. 

Well we will have to disagree on that one. 

Cheers Arry

[WILF 49,541]

6 minutes ago, Arry said:

Well we will have to disagree on that one. 

Cheers Arry

Don’t feel bad mate, almost everyone I have ever spoken to about it disagrees with me on the subject…..and I understand.

I just have never really bought into the governments version of “do the right thing and play by the rules” when it is blatantly obvious the c**ts telling me that do neither.

I just think if they can get private jets to Davos 10 times a year then they can look after some poor old born and bred British f****r who ain’t got a penny to scratch his arse with, wether he paid in or not. 
f**k the state, them c**ts can afford it and you can bet your life in one thing, if they did away with all the so called “scroungers” tomorrow nobody would see a single penny back in their wage packet at the end of the week……they will just wank it away on something else ! 

Edited March 21 by WILF

[mushroom 13,941]

Think about it like this. A person working their entire life in say Tesco, on min wage and maybe a bonus here and there. They will pay a set % of their weekly/monthly salary in NI contributions. Now compare that to someone who works in business all their life, earning way above min wage, receiving annual bonuses which would probably be the same as the Tesco workers annual salary. They will also pay the same % in NI contributions which will be a hell of a lot more than the Tesco worker. Both reach retirement age and cash in the pension. They both receive the same measly amount yet the business person has probably paid 100’s of 1000’s more into the system over the years only to receive the same. How is that even logical let alone fair? Where has my money gone? Fuuckers pockets, ridiculous endeavors, greedy councils, a shambles health system, lazy cnuts refusing to work, people screwing the system (e.g. slags with 8 kids and 9 different dads/Pakistanis with 3 wives and four council homes), foreign aid to corrupt countries and illegal immigrant’s hotel bills! Fuuck that system!

Your best bet is to open an account in the Seychelles and have a private pension paid into that to avoid being taxed again. Or move to Norway for 5-10 years, earn a good salary  (yes higher taxes but the benefits are as follows) and have a full Gov pension at the end of it. Then move to Mexico or similar and enjoy your money. 

[WataWalloper 3,261]

Or stay here a play the cnuts at there own game, I mean what’s worst that can happen, a fine? Jail? Fcuk folk in jail got it easier than a lot of working men and young lads I know, I could honestly be tempted to go jail for a few month jist for a break haha 

[jukel123 9,229]

If you want an example of how people are screwed in England, you don't need to look further than water. Every drop of water is measured and has to be paid for. The only other country is the world where water has been fully privatised is Chile which is not exactly known for its generosity to its citizens or its human rights.

In return the water companies have presided over a system where NOT ONE river in England is now in  a good state of 'health'. The water companies have habitually poured raw sewage into rivers whilst paying themselves millions in bonuses. How f****n cynical is that?

[WILF 49,541]

12 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

If you want an example of how people are screwed in England, you don't need to look further than water. Every drop of water is measured and has to be paid for. The only other country is the world where water has been fully privatised is Chile which is not exactly known for its generosity to its citizens or its human rights.

In return the water companies have presided over a system where NOT ONE river in England is now in  a good state of 'health'. The water companies have habitually poured raw sewage into rivers whilst paying themselves millions in bonuses. How f****n cynical is that?

They tried water charging here…..everyone just told them to f**k off ! lol 

[jukel123 9,229]

47 minutes ago, mushroom said:

Think about it like this. A person working their entire life in say Tesco, on min wage and maybe a bonus here and there. They will pay a set % of their weekly/monthly salary in NI contributions. Now compare that to someone who works in business all their life, earning way above min wage, receiving annual bonuses which would probably be the same as the Tesco workers annual salary. They will also pay the same % in NI contributions which will be a hell of a lot more than the Tesco worker. Both reach retirement age and cash in the pension. They both receive the same measly amount yet the business person has probably paid 100’s of 1000’s more into the system over the years only to receive the same. How is that even logical let alone fair? Where has my money gone? Fuuckers pockets, ridiculous endeavors, greedy councils, a shambles health system, lazy cnuts refusing to work, people screwing the system (e.g. slags with 8 kids and 9 different dads/Pakistanis with 3 wives and four council homes), foreign aid to corrupt countries and illegal immigrant’s hotel bills! Fuuck that system!

Your best bet is to open an account in the Seychelles and have a private pension paid into that to avoid being taxed again. Or move to Norway for 5-10 years, earn a good salary  (yes higher taxes but the benefits are as follows) and have a full Gov pension at the end of it. Then move to Mexico or similar and enjoy your money. 

Interesting you quote Norway's pension scheme. All of the oil revenue from Norway oil fields were put into a fund. They reckon they have money in it to pay social, costs for 300 years. Its worth 250000 dollars to each individual in Norway.

We on the other hand, sold our oil fields for f**k all to private individuals.  In fact we sold everything off. I'm going for a lie down...its best not to think deeply or google facts. You end up depressed.

[mushroom 13,941]

32 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Interesting you quote Norway's pension scheme. All of the oil revenue from Norway oil fields were put into a fund. They reckon they have money in it to pay social, costs for 300 years. Its worth 250000 dollars to each individual in Norway.

We on the other hand, sold our oil fields for f**k all to private individuals.  In fact we sold everything off. I'm going for a lie down...its best not to think deeply or google facts. You end up depressed.

My Swedish mate worked 5 years on Norway. Clearing roofs in winter and odd jobs in summer. He has a full pension worth around £2k a month now which will only increase in value until he cashes it in in 25 years  

[chartpolski 27,351]

Thames Water thought they had the perfect Ponzi Scheme;

Interest rates were below 1% so they borrowed £billions to pay huge salaries to their directors and huge dividends to their investors, safe in the knowledge that income from water rates would cover the interest they had to pay on the loans.

Then came covid and Russias invasion of Ukraine; interest rates went above 6% and the water rates collected went nowhere near covering the interest , so Thames Water suddenly found themselves £Billions in debt and heading rapidly for bankruptcy.

The government asked the shareholders to provide a bridging loan  but they refused. 
Now, there’s been a court case, the government won’t send in the receivers and nationalise it, but will provide the funds to keep it going and the water rates will rise by 100%, all paid for by the public, while the directors and the shareholders walk away Scott free…..   

Nice for some, ehh ?

Cheers.

 

Edited March 21 by chartpolski

[WILF 49,541]

1 hour ago, chartpolski said:

Thames Water thought they had the perfect Ponzi Scheme;

Interest rates were below 1% so they borrowed £billions to pay huge salaries to their directors and huge dividends to their investors, safe in the knowledge that income from water rates would cover the interest they had to pay on the loans.

Then came covid and Russias invasion of Ukraine; interest rates went above 6% and the water rates collected went nowhere near covering the interest , so Thames Water suddenly found themselves £Billions in debt and heading rapidly for bankruptcy.

The government asked the shareholders to provide a bridging loan  but they refused. 
Now, there’s been a court case, the government won’t send in the receivers and nationalise it, but will provide the funds to keep it going and the water rates will rise by 100%, all paid for by the public, while the directors and the shareholders walk away Scott free…..   

Nice for some, ehh ?

Cheers.

 

But the disabled person having £60 a week is the problem…..didn’t you get the memo ? lol