Trump.

[WILF 50,901]

22 minutes ago, Moocher71 said:

No ,but let's be honest when you have that much money ,that much power things you have done in your past can be buried,if it was me or you that had been accused of rape x 2 or 3  we'd have been arrested and probably remanded in custody waiting a court date .

We all know money,power talks ,

The only people who really know is him and the woman, but I wouldn't want trump running UK 

The basic FACT that accusation isn’t proof don’t change depending on your bank balance or political affiliation 

[jukel123 9,617]

Bendigo......People are so pissed off with politics that these anti heroes have crawled out if the swamp,

Stiff..decent post but there's nothing masculine about Trump,Tate and Mcgregor. 

Tomo. I only quoted The Guardian because Mackem had quoted the same paper in reporting the charges against Tate in the UK were dropped. But you will believe the Tate story but not anything else in that paper. The Guardian is a supporter of the Liberal Party but it is not owned by the ultra rich. You get a lot of shit in the paper but also some truth. And some stories the right wing papers won't cover. 

Wilf of course accusations are not the same as proof.

Final comment on this subject. When numbers of the male world back Tate, McGregor and Trump, they become apologists, defenders, enablers and justifiers for their actions and criminal convictions.  Not one of us would trust them to babysit or be alone with a female member of our household. But at the same  they are  heroes and spokespeople? Go figure.

 Well they don't speak for me, they don't speak for women and they pour poison in the ears of young impressionable men.

I'm out. They do my f****n head in.

[Moocher71 4,320]

5 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Mate no one and I mean no one can be as bad as what we have had since Blair 30 years of this shite 

No one said it could be ,but be very careful what you wish for.

 

[Moocher71 4,320]

13 minutes ago, WILF said:

The basic FACT that accusation isn’t proof don’t change depending on your bank balance or political affiliation 

Innocent till proven guilty doesn't exist mate for everyday people,it does for those with power and the money to buy it ,if it does exist why is they so many people on remand waiting trials in USA ,England etc etc 

 

 

 

[mC HULL 16,303]

18 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Bendigo......People are so pissed off with politics that these anti heroes have crawled out if the swamp,

Stiff..decent post but there's nothing masculine about Trump,Tate and Mcgregor. 

Tomo. I only quoted The Guardian because Mackem had quoted the same paper in reporting the charges against Tate in the UK were dropped. But you will believe the Tate story but not anything else in that paper. The Guardian is a supporter of the Liberal Party but it is not owned by the ultra rich. You get a lot of shit in the paper but also some truth. And some stories the right wing papers won't cover. 

Wilf of course accusations are not the same as proof.

Final comment on this subject. When numbers of the male world back Tate, McGregor and Trump, they become apologists, defenders, enablers and justifiers for their actions and criminal convictions.  Not one of us would trust them to babysit or be alone with a female member of our household. But at the same  they are  heroes and spokespeople? Go figure.

 Well they don't speak for me, they don't speak for women and they pour poison in the ears of young impressionable men.

I'm out. They do my f****n head in.

If you'd a been out ya bedroom in the last 10 year you'd wake up mate  

Mcgregor  wasn't guilty any hooker would tell you why as soon as they heard the case 

[mC HULL 16,303]

17 minutes ago, Moocher71 said:

No one said it could be ,but be very careful what you wish for.

 

What a leader who puts the British first ?

[mC HULL 16,303]

I'm sat thinking jukel lol I can't breath tell me you've only ever been around one women without telling me you have mate 

Your looking at women like your daughter at 8 

 

Women are the most sly vindictive evil.c**ts there is make men look nice 

 

[Greyman 32,264]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

Quick question, are accusation and proof the same thing ? 

It’s just a typical lefty weapon that some can’t see and are easily fooled by ,   Simply keep throwing bullshit at something until a bit sticks and you win 

[TRUEBRIT66 2,181]

32 minutes ago, Moocher71 said:

He's another one I don't trust,he's going to make NHS private , guarantee it .

Every one will have to pay for health care ,

If people think they struggle now ,wait until he gets in !!, he's not one of the boys like he makes out who as are best interests at heart ,he's for the rich like the rest 

Pretty much everyone who works "full time" pays for the NHS now mate.

Years ago I was offered private health care for myself and my wife in work as a "perk" I could have taken that up and been less of a burden on the NHS but it turned out I would be taxed on it, I had no option of opting out of paying NI it was just another way to tax me.

One other personnel thing. 

I called in to the pharmacist to collect my Parkinson's medication last week there were 5 other people waiting and 2 in front of me who spoke broken English they all were exempt from paying, one druggie was getting special toothpaste as his teeth were falling out.

I go up to the counter and was asked by the assistant to sign the back to get my "free prescription" I had to explain I worked so wasn't entitled to "free prescriptions" the assistant couldn't believe I was still working and had to pay for treatment but the pharmacist confirmed it.

I have no problem with the NHS being reformed and even made private if necessary I'm sick of people buming off the back of hardworking British people who have paid in all their lifes.                 

[mC HULL 16,303]

4 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Pretty much everyone who works "full time" pays for the NHS now mate.

Years ago I was offered private health care for myself and my wife in work as a "perk" I could have taken that up and been less of a burden on the NHS but it turned out I would be taxed on it, I had no option of opting out of paying NI it was just another way to tax me.

One other personnel thing. 

I called in to the pharmacist to collect my Parkinson's medication last week there were 5 other people waiting and 2 in front of me who spoke broken English they all were exempt from paying, one druggie was getting special toothpaste as his teeth were falling out.

I go up to the counter and was asked by the assistant to sign the back to get my "free prescription" I had to explain I worked so wasn't entitled to "free prescriptions" the assistant couldn't believe I was still working and had to pay for treatment but the pharmacist confirmed it.

I have no problem with the NHS being reformed and even made private if necessary I'm sick of people buming off the back of hardworking British people who have paid in all their lifes.                 

Not to.menyion starmer is doing it all over a video.call now virtual Dr's are coming  lol ffs  

[WILF 50,901]

1 hour ago, Moocher71 said:

Two different aligations mate, 

He'd have to be in late 80d to be in Hitler youth ,

He's another one I don't trust,he's going to make NHS private , guarantee it .

Every one will have to pay for health care ,

If people think they struggle now ,wait until he gets in !!, he's not one of the boys like he makes out who as are best interests at heart ,he's for the rich like the rest 

Do you mean Farage wants the totally failed NHS to be like Europe where healthcare actually works ? 
 

 

[WILF 50,901]

51 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Bendigo......People are so pissed off with politics that these anti heroes have crawled out if the swamp,

Stiff..decent post but there's nothing masculine about Trump,Tate and Mcgregor. 

Tomo. I only quoted The Guardian because Mackem had quoted the same paper in reporting the charges against Tate in the UK were dropped. But you will believe the Tate story but not anything else in that paper. The Guardian is a supporter of the Liberal Party but it is not owned by the ultra rich. You get a lot of shit in the paper but also some truth. And some stories the right wing papers won't cover. 

Wilf of course accusations are not the same as proof.

Final comment on this subject. When numbers of the male world back Tate, McGregor and Trump, they become apologists, defenders, enablers and justifiers for their actions and criminal convictions.  Not one of us would trust them to babysit or be alone with a female member of our household. But at the same  they are  heroes and spokespeople? Go figure.

 Well they don't speak for me, they don't speak for women and they pour poison in the ears of young impressionable men.

I'm out. They do my f****n head in.

No, people don’t become any of those things so behave yourself !

Heres the thing, we have had 40 years of spin over substance, people scared to say a word in case they are accused of something which simpletons regard as proof enough, smears, name calling, snide inference…..it’s been toxic and has poisoned our politics system and our lives !

When I see someone doing it, bet your arse I’m gonna say “Oi”…….you are doing it, stop !

[WILF 50,901]

37 minutes ago, Moocher71 said:

Innocent till proven guilty doesn't exist mate for everyday people,it does for those with power and the money to buy it ,if it does exist why is they so many people on remand waiting trials in USA ,England etc etc 

 

 

 

And tell me, who allowed and legislated for it to become that way ?

[Moocher71 4,320]

9 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Pretty much everyone who works "full time" pays for the NHS now mate.

Years ago I was offered private health care for myself and my wife in work as a "perk" I could have taken that up and been less of a burden on the NHS but it turned out I would be taxed on it, I had no option of opting out of paying NI it was just another way to tax me.

One other personnel thing. 

I called in to the pharmacist to collect my Parkinson's medication last week there were 5 other people waiting and 2 in front of me who spoke broken English they all were exempt from paying, one druggie was getting special toothpaste as his teeth were falling out.

I go up to the counter and was asked by the assistant to sign the back to get my "free prescription" I had to explain I worked so wasn't entitled to "free prescriptions" the assistant couldn't believe I was still working and had to pay for treatment but the pharmacist confirmed it.

I have no problem with the NHS being reformed and even made private if necessary I'm sick of people buming off the back of hardworking British people who have paid in all their lifes.                 

Sorry to hear you have Parkinson's,my grandfather had it and my dad also got it .

No one but English, British born from English, British parents should be given free NHS anything anyway in my opinion.

That's one of the reasons the NHS is in trouble,to many immigrants of all kinds taking the Mick ,

If the NHS goes private,how many people will be able to afford cancer treatments etc  and get the treatment they would have got before privatisation? 

I was offered a job abroad couple years ago , working with people like him with the bad teeth and I refused it because it's one thing helping everyone with a medical problem but a totally other one when if you can not pay your left to fcuking rot and refused treatment,in the states I know of people that go to health stores and buy remedies thinking it's going to help cure diseases that's going to kill them few years down the line because they can not afford the £160 bucks a tablet they need ,and these meds need to be taken 3 times a day for a month , imagine how much that costs?

how many times have you heard the saying "life is priceless" no it's not ,if your poor your f****d .

 

[WILF 50,901]

2 minutes ago, Moocher71 said:

Sorry to hear you have Parkinson's,my grandfather had it and my dad also got it .

No one but English, British born from English, British parents should be given free NHS anything anyway in my opinion.

That's one of the reasons the NHS is in trouble,to many immigrants of all kinds taking the Mick ,

If the NHS goes private,how many people will be able to afford cancer treatments etc  and get the treatment they would have got before privatisation? 

I was offered a job abroad couple years ago , working with people like him with the bad teeth and I refused it because it's one thing helping everyone with a medical problem but a totally other one when if you can not pay your left to fcuking rot and refused treatment,in the states I know of people that go to health stores and buy remedies thinking it's going to help cure diseases that's going to kill them few years down the line because they can not afford the £160 bucks a tablet they need ,and these meds need to be taken 3 times a day for a month , imagine how much that costs?

how many times have you heard the saying "life is priceless" no it's not ,if your poor your f****d .

 

Nobody is suggesting American style private though are they ?

The Irish and French system is a mixed public/private system that is means tested…..and it works !, it works like a billion times better than the NHS !

That is what Farage has suggested !……keep spreading lies simply because you don’t like someone and in order to preserve something that is fatally broken isn’t doing anyone any favours really.