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[steve t 1,196]

16 hours ago, king said:

If you are bored jukel..

You could allways join this group mate..

Some nice comments on there..

I was in that group when I was on facebook 

[jukel123 9,290]

25 minutes ago, tatsblisters said:

True. Watched the interview this morning of that tory baroness who her and her husband have made a fortune out of a dodgy ppe contract in the covid crisis but I will be surprised if they receive a criminal conviction. 

She admitted to trousering £60,000,000 in profit. It was probably more depending on who does the arithmetic. But as you say it's doubtful she will be punished in anyway and will keep her peerage.

Yet broke shoplifters will  face full force of the law. I saw a lad legging it out of a Tesco car park last week pursued by a security guard. If I was in a position to , I would have innocently  tried to stand in the guard's way. I was delighted he managed to escape.

 

 

[WILF 49,731]

16 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

She admitted to trousering £60,000,000 in profit. It was probably more depending on who does the arithmetic. But as you say it's doubtful she will be punished in anyway and will keep her peerage.

Yet broke shoplifters will  face full force of the law. I saw a lad legging it out of a Tesco car park last week pursued by a security guard. If I was in a position to , I would have innocently  tried to stand in the guard's way. I was delighted he managed to escape.

 

 

To be fair, that’s a silly comparison….if she has made 200 gazillion quid and it’s all above board, within the rules, taxes paid then she has done absolutely nothing wrong……not exactly the same as stealing is it.

Who wouldn’t ?

Crap like that just diverts attention away from politicians pissing your money away and the responsibility of the idiots that keep electing them. 

[jukel123 9,290]

46 minutes ago, WILF said:

To be fair, that’s a silly comparison….if she has made 200 gazillion quid and it’s all above board, within the rules, taxes paid then she has done absolutely nothing wrong……not exactly the same as stealing is it.

Who wouldn’t ?

Crap like that just diverts attention away from politicians pissing your money away and the responsibility of the idiots that keep electing them. 

OK ,I get that the price of something is what the buyer is prepared to pay. Its not a fixed number,its fluid.

I looked up the dictionary definition of theft:" removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it".

We ,as taxpayers ,are the rightful owners and she took that money from us." I was brought up to believe it was OK to half inch from those that could afford it. But it was the lowest action possible to steal from your own people. 

In a time of war ,which the pandemic metaphorically was, it is doubly wrong to steal from your own as we all faced that common enemy...the virus.

That's my take on it. She exploited and betrayed us in a national emergency. It's not just theft,it's treachery.

 

 

[WILF 49,731]

5 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

 

We ,as taxpayers ,are the rightful owners and she took that money from us." I was brought up to believe it was OK to half inch from those that could afford it. But it was the lowest action possible to steal from your own people. 
 

No, she didn’t, the people we elected bought a product or service with the money we elected them to appropriate from us…..you are a bit of an advocate for taxing “the rich” (whoever they are ?) so it’s that money which you yourself advocate being taken from people that is being used to purchase things on your behalf.

5 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

In a time of war ,which the pandemic metaphorically was, it is doubly wrong to steal from your own as we all faced that common enemy...the virus.

Again, nobody stole anything 

5 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

That's my take on it. She exploited and betrayed us in a national emergency. It's not just theft,it's treachery.

 

 

It’s not theft and it’s not treachery, it’s business and the only thing that was taken advantage of (exploited) were the legal rules created by those we elected to do just that…….stop passing the blame ! 

[dogmandont 10,060]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

She admitted to trousering £60,000,000 in profit. It was probably more depending on who does the arithmetic. But as you say it's doubtful she will be punished in anyway and will keep her peerage.

Yet broke shoplifters will  face full force of the law. I saw a lad legging it out of a Tesco car park last week pursued by a security guard. If I was in a position to , I would have innocently  tried to stand in the guard's way. I was delighted he managed to escape.

 

 

If I had of been in your position I'd of liked to have bounced a tin of chappie of the shoplifters noggin, if the cnut is fit to shoplift and leg it then he's more than fit enough to leg it to a job. 

Save your pity for those worthy of it. 

[Bakerboy 4,740]

18 hours ago, king said:

It's weird mate..as a youngster we wouldn't look twice at such things..but I have scrolled through the page a bit to have a look and there are some nice looking gates etc...feck I must be getting old

You're saying that, last couple weeks Ive become fascinated by fckn wood turning videos, fck knows why I havent done fck all like that since school

[king 12,025]

1 hour ago, Bakerboy said:

You're saying that, last couple weeks Ive become fascinated by fckn wood turning videos, fck knows why I havent done fck all like that since school

I've watched a good few of them the last 6 odd months mate..especially the 1s using that coulured resin..some talented people out there..

 

[tatsblisters 10,934]

1 hour ago, dogmandont said:

If I had of been in your position I'd of liked to have bounced a tin of chappie of the shoplifters noggin, if the cnut is fit to shoplift and leg it then he's more than fit enough to leg it to a job. 

Save your pity for those worthy of it. 

More than likely he was a dirty smack head the same type that would dip some old dears purse out of her bag if the opertunity arose. My youngest daughter used to work in Adams a shop selling baby clothes in Rotherham and was threatened a few times when challenging shop lifters stealing for their drug habit and once threatened with a Stanley knife he had on him.

[jukel123 9,290]

1 hour ago, dogmandont said:

If I had of been in your position I'd of liked to have bounced a tin of chappie of the shoplifters noggin, if the cnut is fit to shoplift and leg it then he's more than fit enough to leg it to a job. 

Save your pity for those worthy of it. 

Judgemental that mate. Plenty of working people can't feed their families and have to go to food banks. I don't buy the argument that shoplifters put up prices. The supermarkets rip us off whatever the circumstances. 

There's a pub in  Salford where I meet up with mates I started school with literally 70 years ago. You could always buy stuff there that had fallen off the back of a wagon, or was " spillage" from the docks. It used to be luxuries like perfume,watches, DVDs etc. Now sellers are opening their jackets and offering meat, cheese and household essentials.

It's just people surviving. Scraps compared to what the big boys steal,  and they even give each other directorships, certificates,medals and peerages for their services to each other.

"Laws are like spiders' webs, they catch the small insects but the bigger bugs sail straight through" . That's from memory,it's not quite accurate but you get my gist.

[chartpolski 27,577]

I watched that interview with Baroness Mone and her husband with Laura Kunesberg this morning.

Its not about theft, it’s about corruption and abuse of power.

Her and her husband at first denied they had any connections to the company that supplied the ppe.

Then when it came to light that her husband had set up the company and had around £26 million in profits put into offshore trust funds for himself, his children and Mones children , she denied anything to do with it.

Then it came to light that she used her position in the Lords to lobby other lords and MP’s to have the contracts awarded to her husbands company.

It stinks, it may not be theft in the literal meaning of the word, but it’s definitely corruption and misuse of power and influence!

And, either way, it’s millions taken from the exchequer and looted by unscrupulous shithouses who used a pandemic to secure their and their childrens futures at the expense of the taxpayer.

Will they be charged or punished ? I doubt it, she was given a peerage and it would look bad on the people who ennobled her.

Ce la vie …..

Cheers.

 

[mackem 29,522]

5 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

"Laws are like spiders' webs, they catch the small insects but the bigger bugs sail straight through" . 

Laws should be flexible enough to take account of personal circumstance.

[WILF 49,731]

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Judgemental that mate. Plenty of working people can't feed their families and have to go to food banks. I don't buy the argument that shoplifters put up prices. The supermarkets rip us off whatever the circumstances. 

There's a pub in  Salford where I meet up with mates I started school with literally 70 years ago. You could always buy stuff there that had fallen off the back of a wagon, or was " spillage" from the docks. It used to be luxuries like perfume,watches, DVDs etc. Now sellers are opening their jackets and offering meat, cheese and household essentials.

Just call it what it is mate, it’s people having a bit of hooky gear on the cheap, it’s not Robin Hood stuff….I don’t knock anyone for that but let’s not crack on like it’s a public service.

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

It's just people surviving. Scraps compared to what the big boys steal,  and they even give each other directorships, certificates,medals and peerages for their services to each other.

Sorry mate, you can’t crack on about politicians and their mates “stealing” when you are always advocating for some new tax or the other which is literally politicians stealing…..

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

"Laws are like spiders' webs, they catch the small insects but the bigger bugs sail straight through" . That's from memory,it's not quite accurate but you get my gist.

That’s life, as they say.

[jukel123 9,290]

6 minutes ago, WILF said:

Just call it what it is mate, it’s people having a bit of hooky gear on the cheap, it’s not Robin Hood stuff….I don’t knock anyone for that but let’s not crack on like it’s a public service.

Sorry mate, you can’t crack on about politicians and their mates “stealing” when you are always advocating for some new tax or the other which is literally politicians stealing…..

That’s life, as they say.

Think you've got me down for someone else Wilf. I don't remember advocating a tax on anything????

[jukel123 9,290]

49 minutes ago, tatsblisters said:

More than likely he was a dirty smack head the same type that would dip some old dears purse out of her bag if the opertunity arose. My youngest daughter used to work in Adams a shop selling baby clothes in Rotherham and was threatened a few times when challenging shop lifters stealing for their drug habit and once threatened with a Stanley knife he had on him.

I have no sympathy with scum who behave like that. They are vermin full stop.

Shop staff should not have to put themselves in that position having to challenge thieves. Its wrong and dangerous for them. Verbal abuse is bad enough but that is unacceptable on many levels. My Mrs works in a charity shop and they have a policy of letting thieves walk. 

I am sorry for your daughter's experiences mate.