mackem 23,851 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Yoohoo, what’s the pay an when so i start Could you sit behind a desk all day? Office politics and all that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, mushroom said: PM me what you need mate. I'm just building a dev team right now and have a lot of senior people applying I’m not recruitment. I’m a PdM who’s unfortunately very involved with the tactical level project management. I’m assured he’s being moved and I’ve got a couple of much more competent developers taking over and joining my team. I still might just shoot him though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, mackem said: Could you sit behind a desk all day? Office politics and all that? That is most of the dev teams lives tbh. In front of their machine in their bedroom. My role though is all over the place. I need more time to sit down at a desk but struggle to find it. Much better suited to me than a specialist role like dev. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,396 Posted May 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: I’m not recruitment. I’m a PdM who’s unfortunately very involved with the tactical level project management. I’m assured he’s being moved and I’ve got a couple of much more competent developers taking over and joining my team. I still might just shoot him though. I know mate, neither am I lol I've been roped into doing this while we hire a new recruiter I don't mind it though PDM... Product data Manager? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 Just now, mushroom said: I know mate, neither am I lol I've been roped into doing this while we hire a new recruiter I don't mind it though PDM... Product data Manager? Product Manager. But really at the moment I’m a technical project manager who’s also expected to take ownership of an entire product line too. It’s bad practice imo combining the two like that. Oh yeah and I’m also working with the rest of the management team to restructure the tech teams management practices and project processes (devops), insulating them from the boards influence and ad hoc requests from others. We need to get that done and stable to be able to start properly managing the product line. And apparently that’s not supposed to hinder project delivery… Exciting and I’m loving it but the last f***ing thing I need is captain f***ing website literally building roadblocks of his own invention. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,396 Posted May 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Born Hunter said: Product Manager. But really at the moment I’m a technical project manager who’s also expected to take ownership of an entire product line too. It’s bad practice imo combining the two like that. Oh yeah and I’m also working with the rest of the management team to restructure the tech teams management practices and project processes (devops), insulating them from the boards influence and ad hoc requests from others. We need to get that done and stable to be able to start properly managing the product line. And apparently that’s not supposed to hinder project delivery… Exciting and I’m loving it but the last f***ing thing I need is captain f***ing website literally building roadblocks of his own invention. Ahh Product Owner... So you guys are now using SCRUM methodology? (Remember we spoke about SCRUM and Agile a couple of years ago now?). If you need any guidance or a consultant to come and kick some butts into touch, let me know 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 minute ago, mushroom said: Ahh Product Owner... So you guys are now using SCRUM methodology? (Remember we spoke about SCRUM and Agile a couple of years ago now?). If you need any guidance or a consultant to come and kick some butts into touch, let me know I do remember yeah. But no not really a PO, if we were actually AGILE then yeah a PM is basically a called a PO in that world. My main product in development isn't just software though, it's mech and elec eng as well as firmware, and a comprehensive IT/dev team. I'm supposed to have a strategic position taking ownership of the whole product lifecycle from cradle to coffin for about 4 products. Part of our changes will be AGILE to hopefully mean I can step away from the nitty gritty tactical level management and they will self manage to a degree. Ill then just keep project teams pointed into the right direction with a strong UX focus to my input. Time, I just need time. LOL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 14,571 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 I’ve just done apmp and prince 2 . wasn’t enjoyable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: I’ve just done apmp and prince 2 . wasn’t enjoyable I actually like both of those. But the text book waffle is sometimes way too abstract to easily understand. But I like everything to be squared away, clearly defined, no ambiguity. I want to know the exact responsibilities and remit of every team member. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 Oooo f**k I've just realised. Hey mushy, I've got the perfect man for your job. I highly recommend him. Please take him! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 12,688 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 hour ago, mackem said: I should have spelt it muff-ti day 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,396 Posted May 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 36 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: I do remember yeah. But no not really a PO, if we were actually AGILE then yeah a PM is basically a called a PO in that world. My main product in development isn't just software though, it's mech and elec eng as well as firmware, and a comprehensive IT/dev team. I'm supposed to have a strategic position taking ownership of the whole product lifecycle from cradle to coffin for about 4 products. Part of our changes will be AGILE to hopefully mean I can step away from the nitty gritty tactical level management and they will self manage to a degree. Ill then just keep project teams pointed into the right direction with a strong UX focus to my input. Time, I just need time. LOL Well like I said if they decide they want a transformational consultant (Agile, DevOps, Kanban etc), or to train the teams in scrum, improve workflow etc or sub hire dev teams let me know, I’ll make sure you get a slice 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,192 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 Mushroom have you seen the topics and conversations on here these days , I admire your optimism on filling your vacancy on here 1 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 Mush can I come live with you if I take up your offer lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,396 Posted May 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, forest of dean redneck said: Mushroom have you seen the topics and conversations on here these days , I admire your optimism on filling your vacancy on here There’s a lot of people on here who don’t post or do know people in these types of fields. If I can give someone the chance, I will 19 minutes ago, Francie said: Mush can I come live with you if I take up your offer lol Of course…. You can be my chief beach ball polisher. Starting salary will be a weekly sack of potatoes and a do on my inflatable island Edited May 12, 2022 by mushroom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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