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35 minutes ago, WILF said:

And mate, having been through a time when I could and did say “how can there be a god” I totally sympathise with anyone who rejects the idea based on their own personal trauma.

I have very little time for organised religion, for the most part I find it disgusting in its heartlessness and hypocrisy……but I have a faith.

I give myself over to knowing it will always be too massive for me to grasp but hey, maybe that’s the nature of faith ? 
 

Im not trying to prove my “point” ( I don’t have one! Lol ) but I just find the conversation interesting ?

I have a faith too but my faith is less based on an all creator and more a “we are all made of energy” and energy as we know can never be created nor destroyed, only converted between forms (Thermodynamics)…. Basically I am and do describe myself as Buddhist ?‍♂️?

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I think it depends on your understanding of the word "conspiracy". If you take it literally, as "more than one person conspiring to commit a crime",then I'd say the JFK assassination was definite

Because throughout history a small % of the population have controlled the rest through lies, miss information, propaganda, bribery and bullying.

And mate, having been through a time when I could and did say “how can there be a god” I totally sympathise with anyone who rejects the idea based on their own personal trauma. I have very little

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4 minutes ago, kanny said:

I  find Naturalistic pantheism a better way of looking at spiritual questions rather than these overbearing gods and rules that people seem to enslave themselves to.

Don’t go starting with all the big words and forcing oiks like me out of the conversation ! Lol 

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3 minutes ago, WILF said:

Don’t go starting with all the big words and forcing oiks like me out of the conversation ! Lol 

Basically everything is god , me,you and the cow in your feild lol  everything is connected  as one 

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1 hour ago, kanny said:

Basically everything is god , me,you and the cow in your feild lol  everything is connected  as one 

I always wanted to ask someone a question who believes this way lol

If I go out an kill someone for nothing,am I right or wrong?

If an animal goes out an kills another,say a lion kills a hyena,what's the difference in the both in pantheism?

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21 minutes ago, Francie said:

I always wanted to ask someone a question who believes this way lol

If I go out an kill someone for nothing,am I right or wrong?

If an animal goes out an kills another,say a lion kills a hyena,what's the difference in the both in pantheism?

One is for the reason of survival, the other is coz ye a wee fiáin ?

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9 hours ago, Francie said:

I always wanted to ask someone a question who believes this way lol

If I go out an kill someone for nothing,am I right or wrong?

If an animal goes out an kills another,say a lion kills a hyena,what's the difference in the both in pantheism?

Once you accept the idea of pantheism  then negative action becomes an action of self harm....is something wrong because it  is written it is wrong? ....

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54 minutes ago, kanny said:

Once you accept the idea of pantheism  then negative action becomes an action of self harm....is something wrong because it  is written it is wrong? ....

That's my point kanny,there's no right or wrong lol

Everything is divine including stuff we would normally call wrong like murdering someone,thanks for your answer.

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1 minute ago, Francie said:

That's my point kanny,there's no right or wrong lol

Everything is divine including stuff we would normally call wrong like murdering someone,thanks for your answer.

That's not what I said mate  I'm at work at the moment so gotta keep it short lol 

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