The drover 1,149 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 20 hours ago, mC HULL said: was good site the hills fens border lad dont see much of geoff on here now you get a good sal cross mate i dont think nothing comes close 4/5 mins is a good run id say a lot will be killed under 3 mins and bambi as soon as they get there plenty knock bunnys over i think a strong hare winter isnt going over unless its run down mate Agree and disagree mate . A top dog will be testing a real good winter boy regularly. Forcing a mistake if possible. Yeh Geoff was good lad . Hills was a good site . But imho , a good dog kills anywhere. Stock broken, taught to jump wire , if the dog has good gears , brain and good steam , should kill anywhere in UK 2 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,867 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, The drover said: Agree and disagree mate . A top dog will be testing a real good winter boy regularly. Forcing a mistake if possible. Yeh Geoff was good lad . Hills was a good site . But imho , a good dog kills anywhere. Stock broken, taught to jump wire , if the dog has good gears , brain and good steam , should kill anywhere in UK i agree mate but strong uns dont go first few bends but gears brain and plenty in the tank is what we all strive for Quote Link to post
The drover 1,149 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 29 minutes ago, mC HULL said: i agree mate but strong uns dont go first few bends but gears brain and plenty in the tank is what we all strive for The do if they are bashed on plough at the end of someone's toe lol . And again , I tend to disagree to an extent . If a dog forces a mistake and hare gets outdone. How will we ever know it was / wasn't a gooden. I chuckle when I hear this . How many have been put up and owner is standing there thinking, here we go . Dog looks a superstar for 60 seconds. Shoulda put it away a couple of times. Then little hare gives himself a shake and pulls said dog all over the land . Now imho, that hare would be talked about as a real un . Whereas he coulda been caught in 50 seconds with a sharp killer. We will never know. You can only catch them once , pre ban of course lol 1 Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,810 Posted November 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, The drover said: The do if they are bashed on plough at the end of someone's toe lol . And again , I tend to disagree to an extent . If a dog forces a mistake and hare gets outdone. How will we ever know it was / wasn't a gooden. I chuckle when I hear this . How many have been put up and owner is standing there thinking, here we go . Dog looks a superstar for 60 seconds. Shoulda put it away a couple of times. Then little hare gives himself a shake and pulls said dog all over the land . Now imho, that hare would be talked about as a real un . Whereas he coulda been caught in 50 seconds with a sharp killer. We will never know. You can only catch them once , pre ban of course lol That's it really, how do we know that many of the hares that are caught quickly by a fast dog aren't really good hares? At the end of the day the dog is faster than the hare, shit happens, a 5 minute grueller could have been quite easily a quick pick up on another day. 1 Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,810 Posted November 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, mC HULL said: i agree mate but strong uns dont go first few bends but gears brain and plenty in the tank is what we all strive for Easier said than done though having the best of everything. Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,867 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 36 minutes ago, The drover said: The do if they are bashed on plough at the end of someone's toe lol . And again , I tend to disagree to an extent . If a dog forces a mistake and hare gets outdone. How will we ever know it was / wasn't a gooden. I chuckle when I hear this . How many have been put up and owner is standing there thinking, here we go . Dog looks a superstar for 60 seconds. Shoulda put it away a couple of times. Then little hare gives himself a shake and pulls said dog all over the land . Now imho, that hare would be talked about as a real un . Whereas he coulda been caught in 50 seconds with a sharp killer. We will never know. You can only catch them once , pre ban of course lol the strong uns rip out the turns from the off mate make gaps on the fastest dogs take a few minutes for fast dogs to get sat in and it will have to sit in or it will get undone it’s self fast types won’t kill these hares only the bottomless relentless dogs will mate 1 Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 23 hours ago, mC HULL said: was good site the hills fens border lad dont see much of geoff on here now you get a good sal cross mate i dont think nothing comes close 4/5 mins is a good run id say a lot will be killed under 3 mins and bambi as soon as they get there plenty knock bunnys over i think a strong hare winter isnt going over unless its run down mate well I can only give you my experience, the ground I ran my dog or dogs on was were the Scottish coursing of scotland ran here in Annan, and these Hares were reported to be the best in the country, the blood was mixed from Altcar (Waterloo cup was held, and, Huntingdon, a crate of Hares went down to those places and another crate came back up from those places, to keep the blood strong, The trainers of the greyhound all said these are the hares, and the travelling lads who ran there dogs there will tell you the same story. up Here you need a dog to be up at the Hare and apply pressure right from the start, and one that can use his gears and when you have that type its poetry in motion, oh able to jump bad fences as well, A friend of mine has bred from some good dogs, with success, wee Bob ( from Longtown) Pepsi= I have a dog now he is 3 Pepsi is grand sire, and Franny, again bred good pups with success, and Lucas, the bitch bred from Lucas was first class, some good dogs there 1 Quote Link to post
The drover 1,149 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 hours ago, mC HULL said: the strong uns rip out the turns from the off mate make gaps on the fastest dogs take a few minutes for fast dogs to get sat in and it will have to sit in or it will get undone it’s self fast types won’t kill these hares only the bottomless relentless dogs will mate I was running them for 40 year mate . I know exactly what a strong un is . But I've also seen an electric dog bamboozle a hare that was flying early . Making me wonder " was he a real un " but he made one mistake and payed price , whereas a steadiier type wasn't pressuring enough to capitalise on the hares one mistake . So no ond can say it wasn't a real un . Just like we can't say otherwise. Also been out pre ban and one dogs consistently catching at 2/3 mins and others at 4/5 mins constantly. To me the steadiier type owner can't surely be thinking he's riding all the goodens and the faster type constantly hitting duds . . Yes proper slop suits slower types in general. But again , mother nature doesn't keep the rain falling for them lol . Its all opinions pal 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,867 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, The drover said: I was running them for 40 year mate . I know exactly what a strong un is . But I've also seen an electric dog bamboozle a hare that was flying early . Making me wonder " was he a real un " but he made one mistake and payed price , whereas a steadiier type wasn't pressuring enough to capitalise on the hares one mistake . So no ond can say it wasn't a real un . Just like we can't say otherwise. Also been out pre ban and one dogs consistently catching at 2/3 mins and others at 4/5 mins constantly. To me the steadiier type owner can't surely be thinking he's riding all the goodens and the faster type constantly hitting duds . . Yes proper slop suits slower types in general. But again , mother nature doesn't keep the rain falling for them lol . Its all opinions pal if every one’s going 3 mins plus it’s a steady type i agree mate i just think when you hit that one that’s flying out of the turns 3 minutes in it has to be run down the fast types wouldn’t hold on and still be going at 5 or 6 min mark speaking of lucas in this thread a good dog mint order but that one in bully match pulled dog all over was the type i mean mate killed 1st hare and the 3 rd hare but only the execeptional dogs would a stopped that second hare ripping out of turns Quote Link to post
green lurchers 17,063 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) On 26/11/2021 at 15:45, mC HULL said: was good site the hills fens border lad dont see much of geoff on here now you get a good sal cross mate i dont think nothing comes close 4/5 mins is a good run id say a lot will be killed under 3 mins and bambi as soon as they get there plenty knock bunnys over i think a strong hare winter isnt going over unless its run down mate 4 5 mins I’m snoring That’s just killing time till ther heart pops boring as fk always will be Edited November 27, 2021 by green lurchers 2 Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,810 Posted November 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 47 minutes ago, mC HULL said: speaking of lucas in this thread a good dog mint order but that one in bully match What mate? Quote Link to post
green lurchers 17,063 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Greb147 said: What mate? It’s coded lol Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,867 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 minute ago, green lurchers said: 4 5 mins I’m snoring That’s just killing time till ther heart pops boring as fk always will be your never killing the strongest hares green lurcher a whippet wouldn’t put a bend into one mate that’s the truth 1 Quote Link to post
green lurchers 17,063 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 U 50 minutes ago, mC HULL said: if every one’s going 3 mins plus it’s a steady type i agree mate i just think when you hit that one that’s flying out of the turns 3 minutes in it has to be run down the fast types wouldn’t hold on and still be going at 5 or 6 min mark speaking of lucas in this thread a good dog mint order but that one in bully match pulled dog all over was the type i mean mate killed 1st hare and the 3 rd hare but only the execeptional dogs would a stopped that second hare ripping out of turns 5 6 mins that’s Bedouin dinner lol Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,867 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Greb147 said: What mate? lucas a good killer in cracking order owner had him mint but that second hare was a real strong one when you drop on them only exceptional dogs will stop them 1 Quote Link to post
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