green lurchers 17,055 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, mC HULL said: the strongest fittest hares will only be killed by a small percentage of dogs mate he give a good slip on seed and after three minutes the hare was still not under any type a control there is dogs can stop them but there few and far between you’ll see it dogs killing quick most a the season then they fall on one a them they have to have 5 mins plus in the tank and be able to settle to stop em Thank fk a couple get away ffs must hurt the ego tho lol 3 Quote Link to post
green lurchers 17,055 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, mC HULL said: the strongest fittest hares will only be killed by a small percentage of dogs mate he give a good slip on seed and after three minutes the hare was still not under any type a control there is dogs can stop them but there few and far between you’ll see it dogs killing quick most a the season then they fall on one a them they have to have 5 mins plus in the tank and be able to settle to stop em Maybe that’s why coursing clubs had hare stewards and call a meet off instead of killing inferior hares that lacked the minerals but the killers like a trophy any how did any of the hare killers zip one open to check it’s muscle fat content ? Nah fk that put them in the pile of 3 from 3 or 5 from 5 yep Edited November 27, 2021 by green lurchers 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,674 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Greb147 said: Yeah, the dog didn't look like he was close to catching the hare did he. But the thing is Lucas was a fast type, wouldn't a slower dog with more stamina have lost the hare quicker in cover though cos that's where he did. not really mate some may be steady but there fast still with that the dog needed to get there stay a few foot off and not loose it or keep loosing loads a ground to make up then get stronger after 3 or 4 mins easy to loose a hare in cover once the dogs tired mate but some types won’t be shook off in cover easy Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,674 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, green lurchers said: Thank fk a couple get away ffs must hurt the ego tho lol no mate Quote Link to post
The drover 1,078 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, mC HULL said: if every one’s going 3 mins plus it’s a steady type i agree mate i just think when you hit that one that’s flying out of the turns 3 minutes in it has to be run down the fast types wouldn’t hold on and still be going at 5 or 6 min mark speaking of lucas in this thread a good dog mint order but that one in bully match pulled dog all over was the type i mean mate killed 1st hare and the 3 rd hare but only the execeptional dogs would a stopped that second hare ripping out of turns Basically I'm saying even a top hare can make a mistake and be killed . But yeh , agree the best hares are still not under control even at 3 mins . As for lucas . Dog was top notch by all accounts even if I personally have no time for owner . The dog was immaculate and a real killer. Tell me.do you think bully woulda stopped the lucas on a real hare hare ? Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,674 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, green lurchers said: Maybe that’s why coursing clubs had hare stewards and call a meet off instead of killing inferior hares that lacked the minerals but the killers like a trophy any how there inferior from not getting run land hard to get on the land with lads lamping em coursing em constant the hares will be less of them but there a lot stronger mate Quote Link to post
green lurchers 17,055 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 Just now, mC HULL said: there inferior from not getting run land hard to get on the land with lads lamping em coursing em constant the hares will be less of them but there a lot stronger mate When was last time you see someone open one up and call it off cos it lacked condition ? I know the answer “ never “ 1 1 Quote Link to post
Moocher71 4,053 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 hours ago, border lad said: well I can only give you my experience, the ground I ran my dog or dogs on was were the Scottish coursing of scotland ran here in Annan, and these Hares were reported to be the best in the country, the blood was mixed from Altcar (Waterloo cup was held, and, Huntingdon, a crate of Hares went down to those places and another crate came back up from those places, to keep the blood strong, The trainers of the greyhound all said these are the hares, and the travelling lads who ran there dogs there will tell you the same story. up Here you need a dog to be up at the Hare and apply pressure right from the start, and one that can use his gears and when you have that type its poetry in motion, oh able to jump bad fences as well, A friend of mine has bred from some good dogs, with success, wee Bob ( from Longtown) Pepsi= I have a dog now he is 3 Pepsi is grand sire, and Franny, again bred good pups with success, and Lucas, the bitch bred from Lucas was first class, some good dogs there Used to go huntingdon with Abe Stanley in the late 80s Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,810 Posted November 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, mC HULL said: not really mate some may be steady but there fast still with that the dog needed to get there stay a few foot off and not loose it or keep loosing loads a ground to make up then get stronger after 3 or 4 mins easy to loose a hare in cover once the dogs tired mate but some types won’t be shook off in cover easy But dogs like Lucas are known as real fast types mate as in fast even for coursing types mate, he was struggling to keep up with that hare right from the start. You think a steadier type would have kept close enough to not lose it in cover mate? Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,674 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, The drover said: Basically I'm saying even a top hare can make a mistake and be killed . But yeh , agree the best hares are still not under control even at 3 mins . As for lucas . Dog was top notch by all accounts even if I personally have no time for owner . The dog was immaculate and a real killer. Tell me.do you think bully woulda stopped the lucas on a real hare hare ? i agree with you mate tidy animal in cracking order i’d have to say bully would a been there or there abouts mate he is bred from dogs that get stronger as the course go’s on mate exceptional breeding Edited November 27, 2021 by mC HULL Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,674 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Greb147 said: But dogs like Lucas are known as real fast types mate as in fast even for coursing types mate, he was struggling to keep up with that hare right from the start. You think a steadier type would have kept close enough to not lose it in cover mate? fast aggressive types mate as n the get there gear up always trying it the steadier types are just as fast but use it different run with there head working the hare wearing it down Quote Link to post
The drover 1,078 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, mC HULL said: fast aggressive types mate as n the get there gear up always trying it the steadier types are just as fast but use it different run with there head working the hare wearing it down Can't agree in steady types being as fast . They ain't mate . Some just fall far from the tree . Simples . However some siblings can have totally different styles. Look at woolys , they tend to be slower etc 1 Quote Link to post
The drover 1,078 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 Just now, The drover said: Can't agree in steady types being as fast . They ain't mate . Some just fall far from the tree . Simples . However some siblings can have totally different styles. Look at woolys , they tend to be slower etc Edited to say , I heard bully wasn't endless like bog for instance . Totally different types 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,674 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, The drover said: Can't agree in steady types being as fast . They ain't mate . Some just fall far from the tree . Simples . However some siblings can have totally different styles. Look at woolys , they tend to be slower etc i don’t think a steady type will have more difficulty keep up with a hare then a fast type mate just run different Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,674 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, The drover said: Edited to say , I heard bully wasn't endless like bog for instance . Totally different types the bog looked a top top bitch similar breeding on sires side wasn’t they ? i’ve seen footage bully going 5 mins still looked strong Edited November 27, 2021 by mC HULL Quote Link to post
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