Pet hates.

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1 hour ago, pesky1972 said:

How some people get all bent out of shape about a perceived lack of gay men playing senior football, and inferring prejudice within the game is the cause.., but say nothing about what must be a disproportionate amount of gay women in the women’s game. Same as we frequently hear that there aren’t enough opportunities in the game for black managers, when in proportion to the population they’re probably fairly represented, whereas percentage wise black players at senior level are massively over-represented.
All the ‘isms are one way streets.

Surely male gay footballers hide their sexuality because of anti_ gay feeling amongst players and the public? Or perhaps gay men are a tiny minority within the game because many gay men are effeminate and are not attracted to traditional  male pursuits.

The disproportionate number of  gay women in the game is surely because a lot of gay women have masculine tendencies, were Tomboys who played football as wee girls and are attracted to the professional game because it's a good earner . Because of their masculine tendencies they outperform straight women and are therefore selected to play.

Black players are over represented in the game because the negro body shape lends itself to superior athleticism.  Blacks excel and dominate  in many sports. They also tend to be working class in social origin where sports like boxing and football are traditional ways out of poverty. 

Black managers are underrepresented given the numbers of black players in both the professional and amateur game.

Edited Sunday at 10:19 by jukel123

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9 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Black players are over represented in the game because the negro body shape lends itself to superior athleticism.  Blacks excel and dominate  in many sports.

Oi,that's racist don't forget what happened to Nobel laureate james Watson for his race IQ findings 

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3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Surely male gay footballers hide their sexuality because of anti_ gay feeling amongst players and the public?

Or because, proportionately, there just isn’t that many homosexuals who want to play football ? 

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

The disproportionate number of  gay women in the game is surely because a lot of gay women have masculine tendencies, were Tomboys who played football as wee girls and are attracted to the professional game because it's a good earner . Because of their masculine tendencies they outperform straight women and are therefore selected to play.

Agree pretty much 

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Black players are over represented in the game because the negro body shape lends itself to superior athleticism.  Blacks excel and dominate  in many sports.

A truism indeed……however as you get up the tree to what we refer to as “Legends” of the game, then it evens itself out or indeed swings the other way…..as in, for every Viera & Kante there is a Kean, Robson, Petit, Zidane, Pirlo, Rice

For every Henry there is a Vieri, Battistuta, Di Canio, Bergkamp, Hartson, Shearer, Inzaghi, 
 

Even for a one off like Ronaldinho there is a Baggio, Kaka, Figo, Cocu etc etc 

So more may reach elite level but the very top of the tree isn’t dominated by blacks

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Black managers are underrepresented given the numbers of black players in both the professional and amateur game.

I’d say black managers are represented absolutely fairly proportionate to their peers…..there’s loads coaching in the elite academy system that you never get to see. 

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1 minute ago, mackem said:

Oi,that's racist don't forget what happened to Nobel laureate james Watson for his race IQ findings 

Homer Simpson. " Always pick the black fella in a boxing match."

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10 minutes ago, WILF said:

Or because, proportionately, there just isn’t that many homosexuals who want to play football ? 

Agree pretty much 

A truism indeed……however as you get up the tree to what we refer to as “Legends” of the game, then it evens itself out or indeed swings the other way…..as in, for every Viera & Kante there is a Kean, Robson, Petit, Zidane, Pirlo, Rice

For every Henry there is a Vieri, Battistuta, Di Canio, Bergkamp, Hartson, Shearer, Inzaghi, 
 

Even for a one off like Ronaldinho there is a Baggio, Kaka, Figo, Cocu etc etc 

So more may reach elite level but the very top of the tree isn’t dominated by blacks

I’d say black managers are represented absolutely fairly proportionate to their peers…..there’s loads coaching in the elite academy system that you never get to see. 

Fair points. Apart from your last sentence. We would need to see the stats to see if that is true.

I don't have a horse in the race, I'm just giving my opinion based on my own observations and opinions. There's more things happening  in the world to lose any sleep on the issue, (or non issue) of under representation of black managers in football.

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Just now, jukel123 said:

Fair points. Apart from your last sentence. We would need to see the stats to see if that is true.

I don't have a horse in the race, I'm just giving my opinion based on my own observations and opinions. There's more things happening  in the world to lose any sleep on the issue, (or non issue) of under representation of black managers in football.

The trouble is mate, people think you just get selected to be an elite level manager…..but you can’t do it unless you have a UEFA pro license 

That license will cost you £25,000 and about 5 years of you life to get.

The pro license on its own is about 13,000, the A is 5000, the B is 2500 and then the others add up to about just over a grand and you have to have the others before you can do the next.

Then you have to pay all your expenses to attend workshops, like travel, hotels etc and you have to have held certain ones for say 2 years before you can do the next….like it ain’t as simple as “Pick the black fella” 

Theres only so many people available who have got through all that. 

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20 minutes ago, WILF said:

Or because, proportionately, there just isn’t that many homosexuals who want to play football ? 

Agree pretty much 

A truism indeed……however as you get up the tree to what we refer to as “Legends” of the game, then it evens itself out or indeed swings the other way…..as in, for every Viera & Kante there is a Kean, Robson, Petit, Zidane, Pirlo, Rice

For every Henry there is a Vieri, Battistuta, Di Canio, Bergkamp, Hartson, Shearer, Inzaghi, 
 

Even for a one off like Ronaldinho there is a Baggio, Kaka, Figo, Cocu etc etc 

So more may reach elite level but the very top of the tree isn’t dominated by blacks

I’d say black managers are represented absolutely fairly proportionate to their peers…..there’s loads coaching in the elite academy system that you never get to see. 

Declan Rice

 

Pretty much agree with you tho . In a sport where winning is everything if a black gentleman was showing aptitude as a manager then someone would take him on without thinking about race.  

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4 minutes ago, Welsh_red said:

Declan Rice

 

Pretty much agree with you tho . In a sport where winning is everything if a black gentleman was showing aptitude as a manager then someone would take him on without thinking about race.  

Watch this space, in years to come that lad will be viewed as one of the best mid fielders ever…..I remember a West Ham fan saying “Frank Lampard isn’t good enough” when he was 18……we drove him out the club, worked out well didnt it ! lol 

Edited Sunday at 10:48 by WILF

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4 minutes ago, WILF said:

The trouble is mate, people think you just get selected to be an elite level manager…..but you can’t do it unless you have a UEFA pro license 

That license will cost you £25,000 and about 5 years of you life to get.

The pro license on its own is about 13,000, the A is 5000, the B is 2500 and then the others add up to about just over a grand and you have to have the others before you can do the next.

Then you have to pay all your expenses to attend workshops, like travel, hotels etc and you have to have held certain ones for say 2 years before you can do the next….like it ain’t as simple as “Pick the black fella” 

Theres only so many people available who have got through all that. 

I had no idea it costs that much.

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1 minute ago, jukel123 said:

I had no idea it costs that much.

There you go, most people have no idea.

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Just now, WILF said:

There you go, most people have no idea.

Naughty!

Just to bring the debate down a level. How could a gay man share a shower with other men and not give the game away! His cock would be erect!

Even at my age if I had to share a shower with young females my aged tadger would be on full alert!

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Just now, jukel123 said:

Naughty!

Just to bring the debate down a level. How could a gay man share a shower with other men and not give the game away! His cock would be erect!

Even at my age if I had to share a shower with young females my aged tadger would be on full alert!

Not trying to be naughty at all.

The bloke who manages Dorking Wanderers and has done for 26 seasons over seeing 12 promotions from bottom of the pyramid to one step away from football league won’t be allowed to manage them if they get promoted to football league because he holds no coaching licenses at all ! 
That’s how it works !……why would people who simply watch football know that ?, you wouldn’t expect them too. 

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13 minutes ago, WILF said:

Watch this space, in years to come that lad will be viewed as one of the best mid fielders ever…..I remember a West Ham fan saying “Frank Lampard isn’t good enough” when he was 18……we drove him out the club, worked out well didnt it ! lol 

I remember that , wasn't it the dad of a player who didnt get game time 

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Just now, WILF said:

Not trying to be naughty at all.

The bloke who manages Dorking Wanderers and has done for 26 seasons over seeing 12 promotions from bottom of the pyramid to one step away from football league won’t be allowed to manage them if they get promoted to football league because he holds no coaching licenses at all ! 
That’s how it works !……why would people who simply watch football know that ?, you wouldn’t expect them too. 

Time for a pro club to pay the Dorking manager his fees for the course. Sponsor him, with a view to full employment as a manager. The exams can't be hard. Rooney passed them!

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1 minute ago, Welsh_red said:

I remember that , wasn't it the dad of a player who didnt get game time 

Don’t know, it was at some fans forum thing.