What’s your thoughts ?.

[jetro 5,349]

1 minute ago, Greb147 said:

f**k me a week, think of those poor c**ts that got acquitted years later.

Of course they would have to be found 100% guilty, before sentences could be carried out.

Atb j 

[WILF 50,305]

1 minute ago, jetro said:

Of course they would have to be found 100% guilty, before sentences could be carried out.

Atb j 

I get the idea mate, I really do but I honestly don’t think you can trust western politicians with that kind of power.

These people can’t be trusted with anything never mind the power of life and death over private citizens.

[WILF 50,305]

1 hour ago, chartpolski said:

I lived in Saudi for many years, and saw real punishments, in real time !

Heads chopped off for murder, rape, paedophilia, drug smuggling, and the quaint old offence of "poisoning a well" !

Hand chopped of for theft, hand AND foot for certain offences.

Anything from caning to crucifiction depending on the crime.

Prisons are absolute shitholes; 20, 30, 40 to a cell, if you want to eat, your family or friends have to bring you food or else it's just bread and water !

Just imagine the screaming outrage from the snowflake, woke, liberal left if these punishments were suggested here......but have a referendum on bringing back hanging and I bet you it would be passed !

We call the Saudis "barbaric" for their punishments, but they can't understand why our criminals get of so lightly !

Some low life's robbed my parents house and ransacked the place, stole things like passports, wedding and birth certificates, jewellery with sentimental value.......I would have no worries about them suffering some "medieval" punishments if they had been caught , but they would have probably got a suspended sentence......I would have suspended them by their necks !

Cheers.

Question mate, is that country governed from a moralistic/religious ethic or is it like the west ? 
Are politicians there every bit as greedy, selfish and couldn’t give a shit about their homeland as ours in the west ?  

[Greb147 6,810]

Just this minute read the case of PC Harper who got killed whilst in pursuit of some tea leaves. 

Now they are dirty scumbags no doubt but murderers? 

To me it looks like a tragic accident, he got his legs tangled up in a rope they were using to tow a stolen quad with. 

True they drove nearly a mile with him getting dragged all over the floor but how does anyone know they even realised he was caught up in it? 

[WILF 50,305]

1 minute ago, Greb147 said:

Just this minute read the case of PC Harper who got killed whilst in pursuit of some tea leaves. 

Now they are dirty scumbags no doubt but murderers? 

To me it looks like a tragic accident, he got his legs tangled up in a rope they were using to tow a stolen quad with. 

True they drove nearly a mile with him getting dragged all over the floor but how does anyone know they even realised he was caught up in it? 

Did they convict them for murder or manslaughter ?......because to me that looks like manslaughter.

[jetro 5,349]

Just now, WILF said:

I get the idea mate, I really do but I honestly don’t think you can trust western politicians with that kind of power.

These people can’t be trusted with anything never mind the power of life and death over private citizens.

True, it would be ideal in an ideal world. 

Just have to look at the system as it is at the moment. Scary. 

Also looking at how some countries are handling the covid crisis and every thing else, dosent fill me with great hope.

On saying that.

Forget the death penalty. Really couldn't work fairly.

But the laws should tighten up. And life should mean life for murder, rape and pedos.

Also castle doctrine should be allowed.

Atb j 

[Greb147 6,810]

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

Did they convict them for murder or manslaughter ?......because to me that looks like manslaughter.

Tbh I haven't read up on the case, just seen a quick video on Sky News. 

[WILF 50,305]

1 minute ago, Greb147 said:

Tbh I haven't read up on the case, just seen a quick video on Sky News. 

No, me neither so I genuinely don’t know

[chartpolski 28,007]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

Question mate, is that country governed from a moralistic/religious ethic or is it like the west ? 
Are politicians there every bit as greedy, selfish and couldn’t give a shit about their homeland as ours in the west ?  

It's  an "Absolute Monarchy", Wilf. The King appoints ministers and controls all finances. It is, in effect, HIS country !

There is no immigration, and you can't apply for citizenship. You can only live there as a foreigner if you have a sponsor and a job.

Its very difficult for Saudis to marry foreigners, a saudi man can marry a Muslim, Christian or Jew, but a saudi woman can only marry a Muslim.......go figure !

It has opened up slightly , you can now get a visit visa to attend one of the big sporting events they now hold. Before, you had to have close relatives living there, or be lucky enough to know a prince who could pull strings !

its certainly no Utopia, it has many, many faults, but I enjoyed my time there, not least because they payed me bucketloads of money ! LOL !

Im a believer of "when in Rome......", so I got on fine.

Cheets.

[Gypsydog94 4,708]

3 hours ago, Greb147 said:

Our transit work van got done over twice in two weeks whilst working in Essex a few year ago and our gaffer ordered us to leave it unlocked.

We had nothing in it apart from a few shovels and our work boots. 

Pricks probably still wouldn’t try the handle see if unlocked

[WILF 50,305]

1 minute ago, chartpolski said:

It's  an "Absolute Monarchy", Wilf. The King appoints ministers and controls all finances. It is, in effect, HIS country !

There is no immigration, and you can't apply for citizenship. You can only live there as a foreigner if you have a sponsor and a job.

Its very difficult for Saudis to marry foreigners, a saudi man can marry a Muslim, Christian or Jew, but a saudi woman can only marry a Muslim.......go figure !

It has opened up slightly , you can now get a visit visa to attend one of the big sporting events they now hold. Before, you had to have close relatives living there, or be lucky enough to know a prince who could pull strings !

its certainly no Utopia, it has many, many faults, but I enjoyed my time there, not least because they payed me bucketloads of money ! LOL !

Im a believer of "when in Rome......", so I got on fine.

Cheets.

So, he is “governing” solely in the interests of his country and it’s people (obviously it benefits him too) 

In the west we don’t do that and thats why we can’t allow the state the power of life and death imho.

[WILF 50,305]

14 minutes ago, jetro said:

 

Also castle doctrine should be allowed.

Atb j 

We have castle doctrine to a bigger extent than the UK here in Ireland though mate, we can absolutely plug someone on any part of our property if we can prove we thought there was a direct risk to life.

 

 

[chartpolski 28,007]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

So, he is “governing” solely in the interests of his country and it’s people (obviously it benefits him too) 

In the west we don’t do that and thats why we can’t allow the state the power of life and death imho.

Saudi nationals have free healthcare, free schooling, house building grants, there was no taxes whatsoever, until recently when 5% vat was imposed on certain items. Food, fuel, electricity and water are subsidised.

BUT, it's certainly not a "free" country ! There's no voting, criticism of the royals or the government, (basically the same thing), is punished severely, woman are, to some extent, second class citizens, but the vast majority of Saudis I know are happy with the set up.

In the west, we make a big thing of saudi women not being allowed to drive, but my daughter in law says " why on earth would I want to drive, when I can employ a Pakistani driver for £200 a month ? " .

We seem to worry more about saudi women's rights than saudi women do !

Cheers.

[Greb147 6,810]

1 minute ago, chartpolski said:

Saudi nationals have free healthcare, free schooling, house building grants, there was no taxes whatsoever, until recently when 5% vat was imposed on certain items. Food, fuel, electricity and water are subsidised.

BUT, it's certainly not a "free" country ! There's no voting, criticism of the royals or the government, (basically the same thing), is punished severely, woman are, to some extent, second class citizens, but the vast majority of Saudis I know are happy with the set up.

In the west, we make a big thing of saudi women not being allowed to drive, but my daughter in law says " why on earth would I want to drive, when I can employ a Pakistani driver for £200 a month ? " .

We seem to worry more about saudi women's rights than saudi women do !

Cheers.

What would happen if you got caught bucking a Saudi lass? 

[chartpolski 28,007]

Just now, Greb147 said:

What would happen if you got caught bucking a Saudi lass? 

Adultery is punishable by death, but certain rules apply;

If you were both married, (not to each other), you would be beheaded, she would be stoned.

If you were both single, you would both be caned.

In reality, if you were a westerner, you'd just be deported, and the woman's punishment would depend to a large extent on what her father or brothers thought.

Cheers.