villaman 9,982 Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 https://raptorpersecutionscotland.wordpress.com/2020/07/03/wild-justice-raises-48-5k-within-3-days-for-badger-cull-challenge/amp/ Quote Link to post
Stavross 18,357 Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 Wow, that’s mad, they have gone about this all wrong, the focus has been the spread of bovine TB, when if they had come at it from another angle and to me a more important one, that is the fact that there’s far to many and have become an apex predator, destroying habitat and having a detrimental effect on native wildlife, maybe the general public would be more in favour of the control of this menace instead of been brain washed by the lies and complete lack of understanding of how these animals behave spouted by the idiots at wild justice 3 Quote Link to post
BenBhoy 4,706 Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Stavross said: maybe the general public I'm afraid you're giving the general public far too much credit there mate; they only see a cute stripey cuddly animal & the thought of culling them would be unacceptable to the general public, no matter what fact based points we put across. Morons. 3 Quote Link to post
Stavross 18,357 Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, BenBhoy said: I'm afraid you're giving the general public far too much credit there mate; they only see a cute stripey cuddly animal & the thought of culling them would be unacceptable to the general public, no matter what fact based points we put across. Morons. It saddens me, but I’m afraid you may be right 1 Quote Link to post
Baldcoot 2,352 Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 Yes we have already lost this battle the londoncentric pillocks put hands over ears and go laaaa when we speak,show film footage or scientific proof. The fact that these ground nesting bird killers are lamb slaughtering dogs is lost on these narrow minded pillocks as chlis and brian so theyre cute n cuddly and they wouldnt lie would they Quote Link to post
FOXHUNTER 5,021 Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 It is only going to get worse , the bunny hugger brigade are easily manipulated by the likes of WJ as they never set foot in the countryside and have no idea of how it operates. 1 1 Quote Link to post
Pirate 9000 676 Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 I believe is challenge to the cull is going to be based on English nature's rules of no more than 5 percent of badgers being lost wounded,and the contractors have reported over 10 percent so have shot there selves in the foot,even if he manages to stop it, DEFRA will soon get around it but is aim is publicity not protecting badger's,he thrives on his own importance. 1 Quote Link to post
Baldcoot 2,352 Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 The worm makes a damn good living out of making stuff up and ruining the countryside . When he,s banned all shooting diversity in animals will be foxes, badgers and crows they,l have eaten all else Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 7 hours ago, BenBhoy said: I'm afraid you're giving the general public far too much credit there mate; they only see a cute stripey cuddly animal & the thought of culling them would be unacceptable to the general public, no matter what fact based points we put across. Morons. The trouble is in my opinion, there have been decades of propoganda from the anti brigade with the main shooting and countryside bodies keeping their heads down and simply hoping it would all go away for fear of bringing more draconian laws upon themselves on the back of those popular ideals. The result is ever since the 80's we've had this false idea spread that if you leave nature alone, it finds it's own harmonious natural balance. From memory this started to come out around the time of the tree protests etc. That idea propogated on social media and through one or two anti news outlets has given rise to this becoming a widespread belief amongst the general public as it's gone unchallenged due to a false hope that being not seen or not heard would result in shooting and countryside pest control just getting forgotten about and ignored by Government. The addition of one or two self taught celebrities / presenters to this fold has strengthened these views. The problem now is you have 30-40yrs of people being taught these inaccuracies and several whole generations being brought up in the belief that everything with fur is a teddy bear, and the natural world looks after itself. Reversing that, is going to be an almost impossible situation without Government intervention and Government is more concerned about popularity at the polls than conservation reference the recent comments on Newts preventing building houses over the green belt etc. ie the Government in my opinion would rather concrete the whole contryside over than preserve the environment. The future of Britain is little wildlife and small farms surrounded by housing estates. 5 1 Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 16 hours ago, Stavross said: Wow, that’s mad, they have gone about this all wrong, the focus has been the spread of bovine TB, when if they had come at it from another angle and to me a more important one, that is the fact that there’s far to many and have become an apex predator, destroying habitat and having a detrimental effect on native wildlife, maybe the general public would be more in favour of the control of this menace instead of been brain washed by the lies and complete lack of understanding of how these animals behave spouted by the idiots at wild justice “In areas of preferred habitat (amenity grassland), counts of hedgehogs more than doubled over a 5-year period from the start of badger culling (from 0.9 ha−1pre-cull to 2.4 ha−1 post-cull), whereas hedgehog counts did not change where there was no badger culling (0.3–0.3 hedgehogs ha−1).” https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0095477 250% increase after 5 years of culling! Couldn’t agree more mate. 5 Quote Link to post
FOXHUNTER 5,021 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Alsone said: The trouble is in my opinion, there have been decades of propoganda from the anti brigade with the main shooting and countryside bodies keeping their heads down and simply hoping it would all go away for fear of bringing more draconian laws upon themselves on the back of those popular ideals. The result is ever since the 80's we've had this false idea spread that if you leave nature alone, it finds it's own harmonious natural balance. From memory this started to come out around the time of the tree protests etc. That idea propogated on social media and through one or two anti news outlets has given rise to this becoming a widespread belief amongst the general public as it's gone unchallenged due to a false hope that being not seen or not heard would result in shooting and countryside pest control just getting forgotten about and ignored by Government. The addition of one or two self taught celebrities / presenters to this fold has strengthened these views. The problem now is you have 30-40yrs of people being taught these inaccuracies and several whole generations being brought up in the belief that everything with fur is a teddy bear, and the natural world looks after itself. Reversing that, is going to be an almost impossible situation without Government intervention and Government is more concerned about popularity at the polls than conservation reference the recent comments on Newts preventing building houses over the green belt etc. ie the Government in my opinion would rather concrete the whole contryside over than preserve the environment. The future of Britain is little wildlife and small farms surrounded by housing estates. Spot on 1 Quote Link to post
shovel leaner 7,650 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Alsone said: The trouble is in my opinion, there have been decades of propoganda from the anti brigade with the main shooting and countryside bodies keeping their heads down and simply hoping it would all go away for fear of bringing more draconian laws upon themselves on the back of those popular ideals. The result is ever since the 80's we've had this false idea spread that if you leave nature alone, it finds it's own harmonious natural balance. From memory this started to come out around the time of the tree protests etc. That idea propogated on social media and through one or two anti news outlets has given rise to this becoming a widespread belief amongst the general public as it's gone unchallenged due to a false hope that being not seen or not heard would result in shooting and countryside pest control just getting forgotten about and ignored by Government. The addition of one or two self taught celebrities / presenters to this fold has strengthened these views. The problem now is you have 30-40yrs of people being taught these inaccuracies and several whole generations being brought up in the belief that everything with fur is a teddy bear, and the natural world looks after itself. Reversing that, is going to be an almost impossible situation without Government intervention and Government is more concerned about popularity at the polls than conservation reference the recent comments on Newts preventing building houses over the green belt etc. ie the Government in my opinion would rather concrete the whole contryside over than preserve the environment. The future of Britain is little wildlife and small farms surrounded by housing estates. You’ve changed your tune from the post you made on page #1 of badger cull , majestic animals was the phrase you used ! Where did you copy and paste this lot ! 5 Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Well I didn't realise they had such an impact on other wildlife., you guys educated me on their destructive side As said earlier, I believed they ate worms and carrion not hedgehogs and songbirds. As for cut and paste, all my own views. 4 Quote Link to post
Baldcoot 2,352 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Every day is a school day and we all have knowledge to share and things to learn ,no one knows everything apart from Steven Fry and he,s as mad as a bucket of frogs 4 1 Quote Link to post
BenBhoy 4,706 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 17 hours ago, Baldcoot said: no one knows everything apart from Steven Fry Big difference between knowing about & being able to do. 1 1 Quote Link to post
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