hiya guys just wanted to ask for a few tips on how to bring my 6month old lurchers on I've got three

[RTurlough 160]

haaaa, I had a minute of free time.

[king 11,664]

3 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Bit vague that 

I'm quite surprised no 11 was left out to be honest.

Frock extraction from barb wire and other jagged surfaces.

[Black neck 15,166]

49 minutes ago, king said:

I'm quite surprised no 11 was left out to be honest.

Frock extraction from barb wire and other jagged surfaces.

Now the talking shite

Edited April 4, 2019 by Black neck
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[king 11,664]

Just now, Black neck said:

Now the talking

Rturlough.is flat out on the old singer typewriter.

Sorting out #11 

[Black neck 15,166]

6 minutes ago, king said:

Rturlough.is flat out on the old singer typewriter.

Sorting out #11 

I have honestly never had a garment snagged on barbed wire 

When wearing the kit just use the gates the keepers even open them for you at times 

[RTurlough 160]

1 hour ago, king said:

Rturlough.is flat out on the old singer typewriter.

Sorting out #11 

King ya f****n wanker at 6,542 posts.  Armchair hunter.

[dogmandont 9,363]

2 hours ago, RTurlough said:

Hey Yadad, there are all different ways to go about it but I will give you my version.

 

1).  Prey drive.

Rags attached to string on the end of a good pole, make them compete and change the rags.  Few rabbit skins if you can get them to get them used to fur, but honestly there is no real need to do this. Sometimes an auld teddy bear, an old slipper.  This is great if you are working during the week or in winter and keep your sessions down to 5mins of chasing. Pups should be fairly wrecked after this and if doing it on your garden pick a bit of the garden you don't like the look off as they will tear it to pieces.

Prey drive and bite drive are the most important things in my book.  You can have the best trained lurcher in the world but if it doesnt have these two things they will let you down in the future or if you forget to push prey and bite drive through play you may have to go back to this when things go wrong.  Speaking from experience here.

 

2).  Recall.

Dog comes slip him a tiny cube of chopped bacon.  keep doing it around the garden because once you turn off that lamp in the dark you don't want a dog standing 5 ft from you but coming straight in once you whisper a name until it knows to return once the lamp is off.

 

3).  Jump training.

Use the jig pole I said in No. 1 above.  Stand near a small fence and get the dogs to chase the lure then lift it over the fence, if they want it they are going to have to jump the fence.  Don't ever try and force a jump without the lure or some kind of reward.  If on a walk and you negotiate a few obstacles, the walk itself is a reward, so they will quickly learn to negotiate a good few different types of obstacles as you are on a dander.  Always be wary young pups going over fences and if a dog gets caught up secure his head first before rushing in to help him.  I know a man who got a chuck bitten off his cheek trying to free is lurcher's toe, had to get a skin graft from his arse to heal the hole!

 

4).  Ferrets.

Break to ferrets.  Never ever ever let a lurcher kill a ferret.  You may laugh at that, but I know lots of lads who have and the dogs could never be worked round ferrets, they couldn't even be housed near ferrets without at some time trying to get out to kill them.

 

5).  Retrieve.

NEVER EVER more than 3 retrieves for a pup.  Never end the session on a retrieve or the dog will associate that with being put back in the pen.  Don't chase the dog if it refuses to retrieve.  It is not a race, just stand up, turn away and giving the dog a bit of gentle persuasion to come back in.  Once you keep doing this it will enjoy getting out of the oen for a few retrieves and throw a fence in to bring it all together.

 

6).  Road walking.

Road walking is time consuming and definitely for a pup gets the pads ready before the young nettles in Spring.  If your dog has a lot of pen time due to work and you hit Spring without some degree of road walking prepared for a shitty hunt as all your dog can think of is burning pads or trying to get teasles out of his fur.  So a bit of road work and walks in lanes will get your dogs used to things getting caught up in the fur and not get distracted by being inexperienced.

 

7).  Let Pups be Pups.

You will be dying to get these pups out on the lamp or a hunt but if you can will yourself to hold these dogs back until 1 1/2yrs old you will have potentially brilliant lurchers.  Remember that every time your lurcher sees game he must win.  Jig pole they win near every time, eventually.  You want your dogs running with 100% conviction that they are confident they will catch what you release them on.  Preparation is the key because when they are 1 1/2 yrs old they are not going to get one course or a rabbit but probably run after run after run in a very short period of time.  Even 3 runs in an hour for a lurcher pup at a year old is hard work and if it misses 3 rabbits it will get a sickener of a lifetime and potentially jack.  I am really speaking from experience here having run a young dog this season and on a hunt with my brother watched the dog just believe he wasn't fast enough.  It totally broke my heart and this dog was 10months old.  Having to do alot of remediation work now in lying the dog up and going back to the jig pole and lures.  I was so busy planning his training and putting ferreted rabbits in front of him I forgot to let him mature and be a pup so I am spending the nect 8 months just playing with him.  Tug of war, jumping, lure work and making him believe he is faster than lightening itself.

 

8).  Injury prevention.

The first few seconds when the pups are released from the pens can destroy a lurcher and ruin everything you have done in one split second.  That first turn on the lawn can break legs, rip leg tendons, break toes, split webbing between toes so if you can keep everything calm when opening the pens.  Easier said than done but slipping pups onto the leads to keep them static until you walk them a few hundred metres to get there legs stretched before letting them off can help keep your pups injury free.

 

Never leave bones in between 3 pups.  This will spell disaster and can escalate into all out ward with two dogs vs 1 if one of your pups goes onto its belly, potentially getting dis-embowelled.

 

Grooming them with a brush is a great way of being a perfectionist with your dogs and as you run your hands over them each day will find areas tight, injured and is part of a daily inspection.  Standing watching your dogs walk in the pen while sipping a cup of tea is one of the best ways to inspect dogs.  You will see tired pups not willing to jump up against the pen on the two back legs, small strains which are barely noticeable as you see a pup putting less weight on one leg than another or pacing with a one-sided gait.

 

9).  The poo stare.

Every time you walk into the pens have a look at their poo.  It will become second nature and a great way to pick up on worms but even when you don't see worms and administer Panacur or drontal you will be amazed at the worms which appear.

 

10).  Ear cleaning.

Thornit powder is the best stuff and cheap as chips.  Just stick a bit on the end of your finger and rub it round the inside of the dogs ear canal.  An auld cloth and warm water for doing the rest of the ears.  

 

So there are my ten tips.  The only real important point is if you are transporting PUPS around in the van or car to places for exercise don't let them jump out of the boot until a year old.  Lift them out in your arms.  Lads will laugh at this but the pups haven't properly formed their shin bones and when they jump out of the boot the exert huge pressure on the forelegs, shins and feet.  It is all about keeping the dogs injury free and also if you haven't got jags yet as some pups slip the net definitely get them done.  It is law but besides that it means you won't lose your whole kennel block to a bout of Parvo.

Enjoy your dogs and don't ever listen to anyone who says that your dog should be doing "such and such" as his did by 10 months old.  These are your dogs.  You know their strengths and weaknesses, you know what makes them tick and yes don't be worried about working all 3, if you are lucky one of them will be the dog of a lifetime.  I look forward to seeing you get some photos up of your three pups sometime and wish you all the best in bringing this dogs on.  Inch by inch, metre by metre and mile by mile.  Take it really slowly and don't expect them to be hunting until at least a year and a half.  Yes they will catch rabbits by 10 months old but you want brilliant dogs patience is the key.

The fcukwit only wants to smash badgers so there really wasn’t any need to go to the bother. 

[RTurlough 160]

Hope he has the right cross or its his lurchers which will get smashed.  Maybe with Brexit they might lift the ban by the time his dogs are 2.

Edited April 4, 2019 by RTurlough

[dogmandont 9,363]

42 minutes ago, RTurlough said:

Hope he has the right cross or its his lurchers which will get smashed.  Maybe with Brexit they might lift the ban by the time his dogs are 2.

Are maybe he could do the dogs a favour and drop them into the nearest pound. 

[king 11,664]

2 hours ago, RTurlough said:

King ya f****n wanker at 6,542 posts.  Armchair hunter.

Stop being so nasty rturlough 

[RTurlough 160]

Will do.