fireman 11,402 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 11 hours ago, sussex said: Shooters spend £2.5 billion on goods and services .. Shooting supports the equivalent of 74000 full time jobs Nearly 2 million Hectares are actively managed as a result of shooting Shoot providers spend £250 million a year on conservation . Shooters spend 3.9 million working days on conservation , the equivalent of 16000 full time jobs .. Then you have backward left wing councils that stop grouse shooting and surrender the moor to a bunch of tree hugging bunny strokers that don’t want or don’t have the money to support the moor ..Shooting driven pheasants might not be your bag but don’t knock it the money input from it supports some fabulous conservation work that lives on its back .. And most guns on pegs are feckwits who can't tell the difference between a Thrush and a Redwing,more than enough are just trespassers in the countryside and are only in the fields to kill stuff.Countrymen they will never be and just because they throw money into a pot don't make them special cases as like i say most shouldn't be there.This money that's being chucked into shooting,they sorted the waste of game problem out yet or are they just carrying on like the last few years and dumping it ?,as long as the guns get their shots so all is good eh,ffs ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,933 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 Ah yes the well known feckwit test under the countryman subcategory; Can you tell the difference between a thrush and a redwing? (Minimum grade B for just not eating the crayon provided) 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,864 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 11 hours ago, Meece said: Well they've been around for a blooming long time..... https://www.thefield.co.uk/shooting/the-history-of-the-pheasant-22364 Is that a question or a statement ? No shooting of game on Sundays. It stops the working class hunting pheasants because if their not at work they should be in church praying for forgiveness and their miserable lives. Also all of the good people will be in church also and therefore not available to check for Rif Ralf out in the woods up to no good. Any Rif Raf not in church praying for forgiveness should be hunted down and hung from a tree in the church yard as an example. Fckin el, you and corbyn would get on a treat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shovel leaner 7,650 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, fireman said: And most guns on pegs are feckwits who can't tell the difference between a Thrush and a Redwing,more than enough are just trespassers in the countryside and are only in the fields to kill stuff.Countrymen they will never be and just because they throw money into a pot don't make them special cases as like i say most shouldn't be there.This money that's being chucked into shooting,they sorted the waste of game problem out yet or are they just carrying on like the last few years and dumping it ?,as long as the guns get their shots so all is good eh,ffs ... You need to stop believing everything you read , animal rights propaganda probably.As far as I’m aware no one I know is dumping birds . Yes the bottom has dropped out of the export market, the guy who used to take my birds to Belgium stopped taking them as he couldn’t make it pay . The game dealers that are going , none that I know of are now paying for birds . “Why would they now”. But they are still taking them , and pheasants are still going in the food chain . There can be all sorts of reasons birds get dumped . If you start shooting early September/October it can be a nightmare stopping them getting a green arse . Unless you get the birds in your chiller after each drive you are going to have a lot of reject birds . Some game dealers will now grade the birds at yours instead of just loading them . And any bird that is not 100% will end up rejected . I try to dish these out to people who I know eat game . But on a large scale this might not be practical. There “is” a market for pheasant at the moment, the day I have to bury my birds is the day I jack the job in . Edited September 12, 2018 by shovel leaner 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sussex 5,803 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 5 hours ago, fireman said: And most guns on pegs are feckwits who can't tell the difference between a Thrush and a Redwing,more than enough are just trespassers in the countryside and are only in the fields to kill stuff.Countrymen they will never be and just because they throw money into a pot don't make them special cases as like i say most shouldn't be there.This money that's being chucked into shooting,they sorted the waste of game problem out yet or are they just carrying on like the last few years and dumping it ?,as long as the guns get their shots so all is good eh,ffs ... Most guns on pegs are far from fcukwits , anyone that does fall into that category doesn’t get past the first drive and in ten years I’ve never seen anyone shoot a thrush , redwing or any other bird or mammal that was either protected or not in season ...A lot of the days are just ordinary working fellas that save a few quid and have a day or so a year on the pheasants as a treat , sure there’s people that shoot once a fortnight and one or two teams that Shoot one a week but these are the exception..All this talk of teams of guns from the city shooting everything that walks talks flies or cries is bol locks ..Some corporate days you will invariably get the odd gun that hasn’t shot driven game ( most will be keen shots hence the reason they are there ) , they will ALWAYS have a loader or mentor , no one is ever given a gun and left to get on with it , safety is paramount. All our game , pheasant , partridge and duck is collected and chilled , most is boxed and collected weekly . Some is processed for our shop and for the guns to take home , the guns can have as much processed game as they want .. All this talk of tons of game being buried I’ve yet to see any evidence, as for rich shooters just wanting to kill every thing I hate to think how much has been spent on some of the grouse moors with little or no shooting this year due to the weather / fires ..if the conservation work relied on anyone but the ultra rich countryman that truly loved that environment and grouse shooting the moors would be fcuked .. I wouldn’t believe everything the anti press tell you .. 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C.green 3,260 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 If it wasnt for the shooting countryside wouldnt be as good for the average lurcher/terrier man. Its not something id pay to do but i hope it never dies out also. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 11,402 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 My eyes tell me no lies so when i looked into a pit on a shoot and saw 4,000 partridges dumped in it,i knew what i was looking at wasn't due to my old LSD experimental days.. Most gun's won't have a good day unless they've killed something, like i say trespassers into the countryside if killing is all there there to do... If i pay someone so i can be a c*nt,does that make it ok for me to be a c*nt?... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,933 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, fireman said: My eyes tell me no lies so when i looked into a pit on a shoot and saw 4,000 partridges dumped in it,i knew what i was looking at wasn't due to my old LSD experimental days.. Most gun's won't have a good day unless they've killed something, like i say trespassers into the countryside if killing is all there there to do... If i pay someone so i can be a c*nt,does that make it ok for me to be a c*nt?... I believe you but it's not common practice at all. The issue of the dropping value of the harvested birds is being talked about before it becomes common practice, not because it is. Most ferrets won't have had a good day unless they come away with a few. Same for all. It's hardly unique to Guns. You're unfairly oversimplifying the reason that motivates Guns to go shooting. Legally no they're not trespassers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,864 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 2 hours ago, fireman said: My eyes tell me no lies so when i looked into a pit on a shoot and saw 4,000 partridges dumped in it,i knew what i was looking at wasn't due to my old LSD experimental days.. Most gun's won't have a good day unless they've killed something, like i say trespassers into the countryside if killing is all there there to do... If i pay someone so i can be a c*nt,does that make it ok for me to be a c*nt?... Can you pm me the estate name please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 11,402 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 No and leaving this be now as it isn't good for the public eye and iv'e said to much for it to be any good for any of us really... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 My regular shoot is only relatively small (10 guns), but I've never seen a single bird go to waste........ I take my fair share, as does anyone else that wants them, but I'll also take any excess birds - I probably got hold of 20 or so last season. I'll dish a few out to a couple of elderly neighbours who miss a nice bit of game. I'll repay small favours with a bird or two, then I'll make any left over into pies, pasties and stews etc for the freezer...........just don't tell the grandkids ! I'll even take any badly shot up birds for the dogs and ferrets - waste not, want not ! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 22 hours ago, fireman said: My eyes tell me no lies so when i looked into a pit on a shoot and saw 4,000 partridges dumped in it,i knew what i was looking at wasn't due to my old LSD experimental days.. Most gun's won't have a good day unless they've killed something, like i say trespassers into the countryside if killing is all there there to do... If i pay someone so i can be a c*nt,does that make it ok for me to be a c*nt?... I'm sorry but this simply doesn't ring true. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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