Another school shooting in America

[ChrisJones 7,973]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

So what’s the way forward?.......imho, I’m a simple bloke and I think simple is best......they should just f**k off because it’s too complicated and political to do anything half sensible.

On paper that reads pretty straightforward but simply f*ck*ng people off isn't going to happen.

The answer IMHO is to remove every single incentive to come over. Free house, free money, free everything attracts people and all they have to do in return is show up. Remove that system and return safeguards back to the absolute minimum and the demand for a life here will simply dry up. Imagine having an open border because only those that could improve the economy by working would show up to do just that! Imagine living in a country where if you want to lift yourself out of poverty, you actually had to turn up and graft?

 

 

[WILF 44,334]

Only problem is, that takes legislation and legislation takes government and they ain’t going to stop importing these people any time soon and they ain’t going to do anything about the ones already here.......

So, what’s left ?...........

[ChrisJones 7,973]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

Only problem is, that takes legislation and legislation takes government and they ain’t going to stop importing these people any time soon and they ain’t going to do anything about the ones already here.......

So, what’s left ?...........

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That's the €640,000 (adjusted for inflation) question. To remove the incentives you have to repeal the laws. To repeal the laws the houses need to agree, and I simply do not see that happening in Britain.

 

All of these programs are on the taxpayer. If the British people won't act in their own interests, or won't vote in those that do there isn't another option besides bend over and take it.

[WILF 44,334]

Or.......

You just have to take the pig headed ignorant option and just dismiss these people and do what people do and join the white flight.........

That’s  what people can do because that is the option they have.......the only option.

If you can’t use the fine tools, then blunt instrument it is.

[ChrisJones 7,973]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

Or.......

You just have to take the pig headed ignorant option and just dismiss these people and do what people do and join the white flight.........

That’s  what people can do because that is the option they have.......the only option.

If you can’t use the fine tools, then blunt instrument it is.

I did that in 2008. Not sure how far I was in front of you but the result is the same. I think I've assimilated alright. I put in. I've never taken out. I held two jobs down during the worst recession since the depression. Even been subjected to the whole coming over here taking our jobs b*ll*cks, but show me a gaffer that doesn't appreciate a work ethic?

However, that's one reason I'm not anti-immigration because I needed to improve my situation and immigration provided that opportunity. I know my money subsidizes some dubious interests as well as some worthy ones but the difference in government is night and day when it comes to fiscal responsibility. What will happen in the UK is anyone's guess I just think most are looking in the wrong place.

[WILF 44,334]

Maybe it’s tinfoil hat time but I’m sat in England at the moment......I happened to watch an ad break on the tele the other day.......not a single advert with white people.......sorry forgive me, there was one......a bird with a black bloke as part of a mixed race couple.

This is f***ing England!........you would have thought you were in Africa!

A directive over here says they HAVE to include so many black people in adverts disproportionately to the actual percentage of population.......yes, that directive is a real thing!

Thats propaganda mate, and I can’t help but wonder why?

[ChrisJones 7,973]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

Maybe it’s tinfoil hat time but I’m sat in England at the moment...

That was your first mistake. Back down the rabbit hole!

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

A directive over here says they HAVE to include so many black people in adverts disproportionately to the actual percentage of population.......yes, that directive is a real thing! 

Thats propaganda mate, and I can’t help but wonder why?

It isn't the people that are responsible for that directive though, is it? I'll bet you a Benjamin Franklin it was university educated socialist working in a government think-tank.

Shame on you for watching the telly though, mate! You know better!!

 

[WILF 44,334]

6 minutes ago, ChrisJones said:

That was your first mistake. Back down the rabbit hole!

It isn't the people that are responsible for that directive though, is it? I'll bet you a Benjamin Franklin it was university educated socialist working in a government think-tank.

Shame on you for watching the telly though, mate! You know better!!

 

It just so happened to come on while I was cleaning my picture of Rhienheart Heydrich lol 

[ChrisJones 7,973]

1 hour ago, John d said:

When a dude's getting bullied and shoots up his school and they blame it on Marilyn!
And the heroin, where were the parents at?
And look at where it's at
Middle America, now it's a tragedy? now it's so sad to see?

 

[ChrisJones 7,973]

Former Democratic Senator for California Leland Yee was sentenced to 5 years for accepting bribes and weapons trafficking. The 67-year-old gun control advocate was arrested in 2017 following an FBI sting.

Two years before his arrest he was quoted in a CBS interview “It is extremely important that individuals in the state of California do not own assault weapons. I mean that is just so crystal clear — there is no debate, no discussion.”

 

[Born Hunter 17,639]

14 minutes ago, ChrisJones said:

Former Democratic Senator for California Leland Yee was sentenced to 5 years for accepting bribes and weapons trafficking. The 67-year-old gun control advocate was arrested in 2017 following an FBI sting.

Two years before his arrest he was quoted in a CBS interview “It is extremely important that individuals in the state of California do not own assault weapons. I mean that is just so crystal clear — there is no debate, no discussion.”

 

Irony...

[ChrisJones 7,973]

In a bizarre twist, the attorney's for disgraced Broward County deputy Scot Peterson has filed to have the lawsuit against him dismissed.

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The motion claims, “No duty of care exists at common law for an individual to address the killer and kill the killer.”

So basically as he has no duty to intervene there is no case against him. This is correct. The precedent was set in Warren v District of Columbia. The police have a duty to protect the public as a whole but a duty to the individual doesn't exist although I'm sure the debate of morally right Vs legally right will rage for a while.

If only the police should have guns, who will protect us from when the police don't have the duty to?

[WILF 44,334]

Is this the same as asking a soldier why he hid in a fox hole when the bullets were flying when he could have done a bayonet charge?

Should we prosecute every soldier who ever got scared?........because to me, that’s what this law suit is saying?

[ChrisJones 7,973]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

Should we prosecute every soldier who ever got scared?........because to me, that’s what this law suit is saying?

As I understand it they're attempting to prosecute him for dereliction of duty. His legal defence has now pulled Warren Vs District Of Columbia, wherein it was upheld in court that the police didn't have a duty in the first place, hence the lawsuit is invalid.

As a citizen if the police aren't under any obligation to intervene in any dispute I may have in the future why should my 2nd amendment rights be restricted under the mantra that only the police should be allowed to carry guns?

Morally as the responding deputy he should have engaged. Legally he doesn't have to. IMHO the lawsuit is indeed invalid and my right to bear arms should be left alone to allow me to be responsible for my own safety.

[WILF 44,334]

And, as I understand it, you have the right to carry a fire arm mate......which I believe you do, you are trained in the use of and have a degree of circumstances where by you can legally bring that fire arm to bare if the situation requires it.

From what I can see, this is a law suit to say that a bloke had an obligation to react in a certain way when the bullets started flying.......but the fact is, nobody knows how they will react until it happens.

jmho