Meece 1,958 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 With the increasing amount of court cases that are failing due to non disclosure of evidence that shows that the defendant is innocent should the whole of the police and the prosecution service be given a shake up from top to bottom and a lot of people made to account for their actions.? Are apologies enough? No doubt these failed cases are going to cost us the tapayer a fortune in compensation and settlement and those that have spent in some cases years In prison and had their lives and futures buckled by obvious evidence hidding. I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Collapsed trial woman says she gave birth 'alone' in prison - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42892530 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,320 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 yes that's why the bbc like it for they only tell the truth when the pedo dies Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,616 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 you got that right mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,576 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 An apology is NO WAY enough, some allegations will follow a person all their life.......it should be a criminal offence to falsely accuse a person or continue forward with a trial if evidence of innocence exists. It should also (imho) be a criminal offence to release the name of a person before they are proven guilty.......especially in sexual offences cases. Its one of the main reasons I hate these internet / Facebook vigilantes. These fuckers can walk away from life ruining allegations they make Scot free......and that just ain’t right. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,587 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 What justice system if you got money it doesn't matter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 hours ago, WILF said: An apology is NO WAY enough, some allegations will follow a person all their life.......it should be a criminal offence to falsely accuse a person or continue forward with a trial if evidence of innocence exists. Isn't it perverting the course of justice? If not, it should be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meece 1,958 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 It's like lots of situations such as the Rotherham sex gangs. The people who knew what was going on and didn't do anything about it and didnt get taken to task over it. The women who fought for the girls lost their jobs !!! The people who destroyed evidence, lied though their teeth and did things like the shooting of the Brazilian on the underground, the guy who was low in brain power who got jailed for many years for a crime that he never committed, the Irishmen who spent years in jail because they had been playing cards and had a chemical on their hands. The list is long. All innocent. Justice!! But there are a lot of rogues out there and the job is a thankless task. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 17,314 Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5478387/woman-who-accused-her-ex-of-rape-defends-gloating-texts-that-cleared-him/ lad did nothing wrong , named. Accuser , identity withheld tell me that is right? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 32 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5478387/woman-who-accused-her-ex-of-rape-defends-gloating-texts-that-cleared-him/ lad did nothing wrong , named. Accuser , identity withheld tell me that is right? Ridiculous. She can't be named for legal reasons but he is named All this crimes against women and be carefull how you talk to them is getting out of hand and potentially a disaster for some poor guy. There plenty twisted vindictive women around. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Innocent until proven otherwise. There should be no publicity until guilt is determined. As far as the miscarriage of justice goes there should be much more accountability from the public sector... Question for those in favour of capital punishment. Looking at these guilty convictions which would constitute capital crimes and an increase in these miscarriages of justice, is it still acceptable to execute someone based on this evidence? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, baker boy said: Not on that evidence but 100% irrefutable evidence like Lee Rigbys killers yes I agree but these miscarriages of justices were convictions based on the irrefutable evidence provided at the time. I mean the police wouldn't lie to us to secure a conviction, surely? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, baker boy said: C'mon now fella now I know you're taking the piss You said you needed irrefutable evidence to agree with the conviction. The whole thread is about evidence that is being withheld to ensure the result goes the other way. If you execute a nonce based on the irrefutable evidence you cannot make it right if it turns out that key evidence was withheld. I'm saying that capital punishment is on shaky ground where results take precedence over facts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, baker boy said: If someone kills another person and is filmed doing it in front of dozens of independant witnesses in broad daylight then confesses to it while waiting for the police to arrest them thats good enough for me, if there is .1% doubt, life without the chance of parole Can't argue with that. Now to see those that want to f*ck the whole process over held accountable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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