God Bless The Usa

[Hydropotesinermis 724]

 

 

 

 

The obvious truth is.... the yanks have ridiculous gun laws. No amount of defending the 'right of the individual to bear arms' and all that bollox can bring back 50 odd innocent concert- goers and thousands of other innocent lives every year. To take the yankee argument to its logical conclusion, an individual should be able to possess a nuclear bomb to deter the government from taking liberties with its citizens. They've got a collective screw loose.

And what part of our law not letting us have guns can bring back the people at the Manchester concert and London Bridge, to name 2 attacks?

We are permitted to possess guns providing we are not loonies or have a history of violence and plan to use them legitimately. In America any idiot can buy an assault rifle.

Anyone can hire a van here. My point is banning one weapon won't stop fanatics killing

Exactly.

 

As i said in the other thread about the Las Vegas shootings,

 

A man in a lorry killed 86 in Nice last year and yet... Nobody wants to ban HGV's.

 

The people wbo do this are evil and will perpetrate these vile acts in any way they can, no amount of regulation, laws or impingement on peoples rights will stop that.

 

In my opinion anyone who, as a knee jerk reaction to these mass shootings calls for the banning of guns or for the restriction of gun laws doesn't have the basic intelligence to look beyond the act to the cause, it's akin to blaming the rain for making you wet when you went out without a coat on.

[jukel123 9,799]

 

 

 

 

The obvious truth is.... the yanks have ridiculous gun laws. No amount of defending the 'right of the individual to bear arms' and all that bollox can bring back 50 odd innocent concert- goers and thousands of other innocent lives every year. To take the yankee argument to its logical conclusion, an individual should be able to possess a nuclear bomb to deter the government from taking liberties with its citizens. They've got a collective screw loose.

And what part of our law not letting us have guns can bring back the people at the Manchester concert and London Bridge, to name 2 attacks?

We are permitted to possess guns providing we are not loonies or have a history of violence and plan to use them legitimately. In America any idiot can buy an assault rifle.

Anyone can hire a van here. My point is banning one weapon won't stop fanatics killing

Exactly.

As i said in the other thread about the Las Vegas shootings,

A man in a lorry killed 86 in Nice last year and yet... Nobody wants to ban HGV's.

The people wbo do this are evil and will perpetrate these vile acts in any way they can, no amount of regulation, laws or impingement on peoples rights will stop that.

In my opinion anyone who, as a knee jerk reaction to these mass shootings calls for the banning of guns or for the restriction of gun laws doesn't have the basic intelligence to look beyond the act to the cause, it's akin to blaming the rain for making you wet when you went out without a coat on.

Would you want America's gun laws to be adopted in the UK.? Bear in mind this would mean armed police,armed security guards in schools,and pro rata shooting incidents?

[Hydropotesinermis 724]

 

 

 

 

 

The obvious truth is.... the yanks have ridiculous gun laws. No amount of defending the 'right of the individual to bear arms' and all that bollox can bring back 50 odd innocent concert- goers and thousands of other innocent lives every year. To take the yankee argument to its logical conclusion, an individual should be able to possess a nuclear bomb to deter the government from taking liberties with its citizens. They've got a collective screw loose.

And what part of our law not letting us have guns can bring back the people at the Manchester concert and London Bridge, to name 2 attacks?

We are permitted to possess guns providing we are not loonies or have a history of violence and plan to use them legitimately. In America any idiot can buy an assault rifle.

Anyone can hire a van here. My point is banning one weapon won't stop fanatics killing

Exactly.

As i said in the other thread about the Las Vegas shootings,

A man in a lorry killed 86 in Nice last year and yet... Nobody wants to ban HGV's.

The people wbo do this are evil and will perpetrate these vile acts in any way they can, no amount of regulation, laws or impingement on peoples rights will stop that.

In my opinion anyone who, as a knee jerk reaction to these mass shootings calls for the banning of guns or for the restriction of gun laws doesn't have the basic intelligence to look beyond the act to the cause, it's akin to blaming the rain for making you wet when you went out without a coat on.

Would you want America's gun laws to be adopted in the UK.? Bear in mind this would mean armed police,armed security guards in schools,and pro rata shooting incidents?

I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be.

 

People are already calling for more armed police, and schools in some areas already have security guards and metal detectors.

 

I don't believe that any person should be prohibited from owning a piece of inanimate metal and plastic based on the fact that they might hurt some other person with it.

 

I bought an old ball pein hammer from a car boot at the weekend, I could, if I were so inclined take it out and bray people about the head with it tonight, should ball pein hammers be banned because they could be lethal in the wrong hands?

Edited October 2, 2017 by Hydropotesinermis

[dogmandont 10,061]

Can't understand why police in the rest of the uk are not armed. Few cops over the years that would still be alive if they had of been armed, and maybe a few more scumbags dead.

[jukel123 9,799]

American gun laws allow gun carnage to occur with tedious regularity. UK gun laws are fairly sensible and mean we can all go about our business with relative safety.

[Born Hunter 17,960]

American gun laws allow gun carnage to occur with tedious regularity. UK gun laws are fairly sensible and mean we can all go about our business with relative safety.

Are Czech gun laws 'sensible' too then?

[Hydropotesinermis 724]

American gun laws allow gun carnage to occur with tedious regularity. UK gun laws are fairly sensible and mean we can all go about our business with relative safety.

So our gun laws are what stopped the Manchester bombing? The knife attacks in london? The 7th of July london underground bombing?

 

Oh, no, wait.

Edited October 2, 2017 by Hydropotesinermis

[scothunter 12,609]

I dont want america to ban guns i actually dont care what they do. Its been happeing for decades normally schools and shopping malls.

I just dont want them here . Fortunaetly it will never be accepted here as it would horrify most people.

 

as for the hammer theory yes you could crack a few skulls with one of them.but also a very good chance after cracking a few heads you in turn would get you're c**t kicked in by someone.

[Hydropotesinermis 724]

I dont want america to ban guns i actually dont care what they do. Its been happeing for decades normally schools and shopping malls.

I just dont want them here . Fortunaetly it will never be accepted here as it would horrify most people.

 

as for the hammer theory yes you could crack a few skulls with one of them.but also a very good chance after cracking a few heads you in turn would get you're c**t kicked in by someone.

Would I? Remember all those bystanders that watched the Lee Rigby killings?

 

What if I hop in my car and go on a hit and run spree... look up Matthew Tvrdon Cardiff.

 

My point is it's the intent, not the tool.

Edited October 2, 2017 by Hydropotesinermis

[scothunter 12,609]

Well its one tool we dont need over here.

 

Ok lets say you folk got youre desire. And then after a few years our gun deaths shot Up to horrendous levels.

Spouses killing each other with guns. Kids shooting class mates.

 

Neighbours shooting other neighbours over silly things that would be acceptable just so you can have a shooter aye?

 

f***ing hell be carefull for what you wish for lads one of your kids caught in the crossfire etc etc

 

This country has a problem with violence as it is. f**k sake our towns and cities resemble a war zone at the weekends with mindless violence with giving the c**ts access to guns. Why create a problem we dont have.

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Would you say that banning guns in the UK has reduced violent crime?

[riohog 5,939]

Would you say that banning guns in the UK has reduced violent crime?

no most of the shootings reported are done with black market illigal guns , that is an issue thats rarelly spoken about ,its easier to remove guns from regestered holders as they did with handguns after dunblane .

[scothunter 12,609]

Prob not but certainly would have been worse if the public had access to them. But we never had the same gun laws as you. They were never availabe to every tom dick and harry.

 

pretty sure the uk massshootings were by folk with legally held guns. Dunblane. That taxi driver guy .

yes criminals will have access to shooters, but cant think of any of them going on kill crazy rampages on the general public. The innocents that sadly were caught in the crossfire

[Hydropotesinermis 724]

Would you say that banning guns in the UK has reduced violent crime?

Since the knee jerk reaction to Dunblane that saw pistols banned, crimes involving handguns in the UK have increased.

[scothunter 12,609]

Classroom of 5year olds a knee jerk reaction!

 

Good im glad they took them off them.if it saved that from ever happening again!