Shootings In Las Vegas

[Ted Newgent 4,896]

"Sequence of Events
The details listed below were gathered from several different sources3
. For the purpose of this
section, the sequence of events will begin on September 25th when Paddock checked into the
Mandalay Bay and end with the LVMPD officers making entry into Paddock’s room. All times
in this section are approximates based upon different time sources and different time
stamps which were all utilized to document this section of the report. All dates and times
listed below occurred in the year 2017.

On or around September 9th Paddock made his room reservation for a Vista Suite ending in 235
but not a specific floor. On September 20th Paddock was internally4 assigned to room 33-235.
On September 21st Paddock was internally changed to room 32-235. On September 24th
Paddock was assigned to room 32-135.

September 25th through October 1st

September 25th

Overview:
At approximately 1533 hours, Paddock checked into room 32-135 of the Mandalay Bay under
his name. Paddock booked the connecting room (32-134) for September 29th through October
2
nd. When Paddock checked into room 32-134 on September 29th
, he did so under his girlfriend,Danley’s, name. Paddock was set to check out of both rooms on October 2nd

From
approximately 1603 to 1656 hours, Paddock was seen at Mizuya Sushi (inside the Mandalay
Bay), he then drove his vehicle from self-park to valet5
, and returned to the front desk with five
suitcase bags.
 At approximately 1656 hours, a bellman met Paddock and escorted him to room 32-135.
Paddock requested to go through the service elevators and not through the guest
elevators. According to interviews, this request is not uncommon for guests of the hotel.
Paddock rolled one bag and a bellman used a luggage cart for the other four bags.

 From approximately 2137 to 2140 hours, Paddock had his vehicle removed from valet
and Paddock left the Mandalay Bay.

 At approximately 2300 hours, Paddock arrived in Mesquite, Nevada.
September 26th

Overview:
Paddock spent time at his home in Mesquite, Nevada, Downtown Las Vegas and Mandalay Bay.
 From approximately 1012 to 1455 hours, according to cell phone records, Paddock’s cell
phone showed in Mesquite, Nevada.

 At approximately 1535 hours, Paddock completed a wire transfer in Mesquite, Nevada of
$50,000 from his Wells Fargo account to an account in the Philippines.

 From approximately 2012 to 2100 hours, Paddock drove from Mesquite, Nevada to The
Ogden.

 From approximately 2102 to 2216 hours, Paddock walked around and gambled at the El
Cortez Hotel.

 At approximately 2223 hours, Paddock returned to The Ogden.

 At approximately 2234 hours, Paddock departed The Ogden and drove to Mandalay Bay.

 From approximately 2245 to 2252 hours, Paddock valeted his vehicle at Mandalay Bay
and took six suitcases (located on a luggage cart) and one rolling suitcase (Paddock
rolled the suitcase himself) up to room 32-135 by way of the service elevator with help of
a bellman. (The bellman who escorted Paddock on the September 25th was different than
the bellman who escorted Paddock on the September 26th.)

 At approximately 2218 hours, Paddock began gambling at Mandalay Bay and continued
gambling into the next morning.

September 27th
Overview:
Paddock spent several hours gambling at Mandalay Bay. Paddock spoke with his VIP host
reference wanting the “Vista Suite” at the end of the hall with the double doors. Paddock was
insistent on the suite and connecting room. Paddock wanted to be in the 200 wing as it had a
better view, according to him. Paddock was upset about the room, but was not angry. Paddock
never mentioned the reason why he wanted a connecting room.
 At approximately 0713 hours, Paddock stopped gambling, which he was doing
continuously since the previous night.

 At approximately 1556 hours, Paddock placed a room service order for two entrees
totaling $94.33.

 At approximately 1632 hours, room 32-135 was cleaned by hotel staff. Paddock remained
in the room as it was cleaned.

 At approximately 2003 hours, Paddock was seen in the valet area of Mandalay Bay with
two rolling suitcases. Paddock had his vehicle removed from valet and left the Mandalay
Bay at approximately 2015 hours.

 At approximately 2029 hours, Paddock arrived at The Ogden and entered a room at
approximately 2031 hours.

 From approximately 2045 to 2200 hours, Paddock left The Ogden and drove to Mesquite,
Nevada, where he arrived at approximately 2200 hours.

 At approximately 2300 hours, Paddock arrived at the Walmart in Mesquite, Nevada. He
purchased luggage, razor blades, fake flowers, a vase, and a styrofoam ball.

September 28th

Overview:
In Mesquite, Nevada, Paddock purchased a .308 bolt action rifle, deposited $14,000 into a Wells
Fargo account, and wire transferred $50,000 to an account in the Philippines. Paddock visited a
gun range in Mesquite, Nevada, before traveling back to the Mandalay Bay.

 From approximately 0227 to 1420 hours, Paddock’s cell phone was located in Mesquite,
Nevada according to cell phone records.

 From approximately 1444 to 1501 hours, Paddock made a $14,000 deposit at Wells
Fargo and transferred $50,000 to a bank in the Philippines.

 At approximately 1523 hours, Paddock purchased a .308 bolt action rifle from a gun store
in Mesquite, Nevada.

 From approximately 1723 to 1803 hours, Paddock was seen driving in the area of the City
of Mesquite Landfill / gun range located at 3200 Mesquite Heights Road, in a rural area
of Mesquite, Nevada.

 From approximately 2042 to 2146 hours, Paddock traveled from Mesquite, Nevada to the
Mandalay Bay and parked in valet. Paddock was seen entering the Mandalay Bay with
two rolling suitcases and a laptop bag.

 At approximately 2218 hours, Paddock began gambling at Mandalay Bay and continued
gambling into the next morning.

September 29th
Overview:
A second refrigerator was delivered to Paddock’s room (32-135). Staff was asked to only change
linen’s and take out the trash in room 32-135. A staff member was told by Paddock not to vacuum
32-135 and not to remove the food service cart from the room. Staff was asked specifically to
change sheets and towels in room 32-134 and inform Paddock when room 32-134 was
completed. Paddock remained in room 32-135 and used his laptop as the rooms were being
cleaned.
 At approximately 0543 hours, Paddock stopped gambling, which he was doing
continuously since the previous night.

 From approximately 1228 to 1314 hours, Paddock ate at Mizuya Sushi Sake and then
returned to room 32-135.

 At approximately 1400 hours, rooms 32-135 and 32-134 were cleaned by hotel staff.

 At approximately 1506 hours, Paddock checked into room 32-134 (under Danley’s name)
from the VIP check in counter at the Mandalay Bay.

 At approximately 1508 hours, Paddock took the guest elevator to the 32nd floor.

 At approximately 1509 hours, Paddock entered room 32-134.

 From approximately 1509 to 0100 (September 30th) hours, Paddock remained inside
rooms 32-134 and 32-135.

 At approximately 2311 hours, a room service ticket totaling $102.99 was charged to room
32-134.


September 30th
Overview:
Paddock traveled to Mesquite, Nevada twice from Mandalay Bay. Paddock placed “Do Not
Disturb” signs on both 32-135 and 32-134. Paddock gambled for a couple of hours and brought
more suitcases up to his room.

 At approximately 0100 hours, Paddock drove to Mesquite, Nevada.

 At approximately 0556 hours, Paddock returned to the Mandalay Bay with four suitcases.

 From approximately 1204 to 1215 hours hotel staff serviced the private mini bar of room
32-134. (Paddock placed the “Do Not Disturb” signs on the room doors sometime after
1215 hours.)

 Between approximately 1300 to 1400 hours, Paddock was asked if he would like rooms
32-135 and 32-134 cleaned. Paddock declined.

 From approximately 1452 hours to 1508 hours, Paddock removed his vehicle from valet
and parked in the self-parking garage.

 At approximately 1512 hours, Paddock was observed exiting the parking garage elevator
with two suitcase rolling bags.

 At approximately 1520 hours, Paddock was seen in a guest elevator with the two rolling
suitcases and took them to his room.

 At approximately 1952 hours, Paddock drove from Mandalay Bay to Mesquite, Nevada
and arrived at approximately 2057 hours.

October 1st
Overview:
From approximately 0206 to 2040 hours, Paddock departed Mesquite, Nevada and returned to
Mandalay Bay. He spent several hours gambling, brought more suitcases to his room, and
ordered room service.
 At approximately 0206 hours, Paddock left Mesquite, Nevada.
 At approximately 0305 hours, Paddock arrived at the self-parking garage at the Mandalay
Bay.
 From approximately 0324 to 0734 hours, Paddock walked around the casino and
gambled. Paddock used both his own and Danley’s players cards.

 At approximately 0737 hours, Paddock returned to his room.

 From approximately 1222 to 1226 hours, Paddock moved his vehicle from the self-park
garage to valet

. This valet transaction was the only parking transaction during his stay
at Mandalay Bay that was completed in Danley’s name.
 At approximately 1229 hours, Paddock was observed waiting for an elevator with two
rolling suitcases. There was also a third bag hanging from one of the rolling suitcases.
 At approximately 1233 hours, a room service ticket was opened for room 32-134.

 At approximately 1317 hours, Mandalay Bay valet parked Paddock’s vehicle in “Garage
East”,

 At approximately 1337 hours, the room service ticket8 was closed out for room 32-134 in
Danley’s name. The check totaled $67.60 and included two entrees.

 From 1423 to 1940 hours, the doors for rooms 32-134 and 32-135 were manipulated
multiple times. For example, the doors were opened, closed and the dead bolt locks were
engaged and disengaged several times.
From approximately 2040 to 2205 hours, a series of events led up to the mass shooting
conducted by Paddock:

 At approximately 2040 hours, a HotSOS alarm was generated for room 32-129.

 At approximately 2118 hours, the HotSOS call was assigned to Security Officer Campos
via his cellphone. Security Officer Campos was assigned five HotSOS calls during the
2118 hours cellphone call. According to interviews of hotel staff, it is common practice to
assign HotSOS calls to security officers and then immediately close out the HotSOS
tickets prior to a security officers actually checking out the room. Security Officer Campos
handled the HotSOS call for room 32-129 last.

 At approximately 2136 hours, the dead bolt to room 32-135 was engaged.

 At approximately 2140 hours, Jason Alden started his performance at the Route 91
Festival.
 At approximately 2146 hours, the dead bolt to room 32-134 was engaged.

[ChrisJones 7,973]

Sheriff Lombardo says they've gone through 21,000+ hours of footage at this point and it's still going.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 14,558]

I’m amazed 

93 dollars for two entree’s 

 

 

[ChrisJones 7,973]

2 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

I’m amazed 

93 dollars for two entree’s

 

That's cheap for the Vegas strip.

[Ted Newgent 4,896]

police bodycam footage as they enter paddocks room

 

 

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/las-vegas-police-release-some-oct-1-body-camera-footage-video/

Edited May 3, 2018 by Ted Newgent

[Ted Newgent 4,896]

Interesting site were this bloke digs out FOI reports

selection on the vegas shooting

 http://altgov2.org/las-vegas-witness-statements/

[ChrisJones 7,973]

One year on and Vegas plans to dim the lights on the strip in tribute to the victims.

Still no motive behind the attack.

[Meece 1,957]

I caught a couple of minutes of a program where a bbc reporter who was there was covering some of the people who were shot and are still in hospital a year on. They will suffer for years and the rest of their lives. Apparently at the time all of the advertisement hordings had words of sympathy to those shot but 48 hours later they had the adverts back up. Oh dear, how sad, never mind.  Reload and prepare to shoot to kill the zombies and the bad guys. We come in peace, shoot to kill, wound, maime and fu## up innocent people's lives.

[ChrisJones 7,973]

On 01/10/2018 at 13:47, Meece said:

Apparently at the time all of the advertisement hordings had words of sympathy to those shot but 48 hours later they had the adverts back up.

That might be true in a minority of cases but the support messages were everywhere until into February this year. It wasn't as widespread as suggested the majority were being replaced late December.

[Meece 1,957]

Not being there I don't know but the reporter said that was how it was. Perhaps it was just the main ones on the big buildings.    Being a weapons holder I know what they will do and it is a fine line between shooting animals such as a deer and shooting an enemy as a soldier but when this  bloke collected up weapons and ammunition for a long time it wasn't a spur of the moment thing.  How no one had any inkling that he was going to do this is a mystery. I think  that he had something like 20 or more rifles. Sadly we will never know. But it has become so commonplace that once the obligatory deference has been shown then it is life goes on. Killing has become numbed. recent history has showñ that It is just time until the next big one. as we all know it is easy to stalk an animal and humans would be easier. Even if you carried a handgun on your belt how is that going to stop some bloke mowing his lawn from being snipped by someone concealed a anywhere?

Question ..... do the  General public in america walk around feared for the lives of themselves, their family and friends ? Do women think "will my children and husband come home tonight ?  Do people make a dash to get from one place to another ? As per a war zone ?

Edited October 2, 2018 by Meece

[ChrisJones 7,973]

13 minutes ago, Meece said:

But it has become so commonplace that once the obligatory deference has been shown then it is life goes on. Killing has become numbed.

I can agree with that partly but obligatory deference as you put it can also be replaced with people just not wanting the tragedy to define them either. Vegas was very defiant demanding their city back and refusing to let that level of terrorism achieve its objective. Much like when the bombing was happening on the mainland during the 80's. People refused to let it define them and they actively defied it. Different generation though. Everyone now is f*ck*ng terrified of everything.

[Meece 1,957]

When I  see people panic buying handguns that they have no ability to use it is frightening.  There was a que of people, mainy women buying guns that would be more of a danger to themselves or their family. Its a wonder that they dont shoot the postman. The other year there was a couple of People  who converted a car and they were laying flat in the boot and shooting people just filling their cars with fuel at the petrol station. What goes on in their heads. ?

[ChrisJones 7,973]

2 minutes ago, Meece said:

When I  see people panic buying handguns that they have no ability to use it is frightening.

Absolutely but from what I've seen in the aftermath working around Las Vegas that simply isn't happening. I'm sure there are a few but you can extrapolate that to any news event where the gubberment is comin' for yer guns. Ever watch InfoWars? 

5 minutes ago, Meece said:

There was a que of people, mainy women buying guns that would be more of a danger to themselves or their family. Its a wonder that they dont shoot the postman.

That's been pretty popular since Donnie got in. A lot of women are arming themselves but they're also seeking training as well. Our local range has had to quadruple its women's firearm classes to keep up with demand. A lot are getting into it for the sport because they're going shooting for the wrong reasons initially but they're finding that it's actually a lot of fun. Anything that gets people training and supporting shooting is absolutely fine in my book.

8 minutes ago, Meece said:

The other year there was a couple of People  who converted a car and they were laying flat in the boot and shooting people just filling their cars with fuel at the petrol station. What goes on in their heads. ?

That is f*ck*ng bonkers I admit but it's just not as common as it's portrayed on the telly. One of my range classes wouldn't be even slightly interesting to warrant a viral meme or a Discovery channel series. The only ones interested would be looking for critiquing their performance. Not to mention if a crew wanted to dictate safety to make it more interesting for the cameras they'd be escorted from the property. For all the crazies there are far more responsible gun advocates but not committing crimes with firearms isn't much of an attention grabber.

Saying that there are fringe nutjobs in every social group but how would you feel if as a shooter you were compared to the likes of Ryan and Hamilton? You'd be f*ck*ng livid and with good reason too. There are certain agencies that have certain biases and they will seize on anything that would support that bias and that's where we tie up a lot of these GT threads.

One thing you mentioned earlier that I missed in the previous reply was the ability to buy firearms without attracting suspicion. It is extremely easy in this part of the country. The shooter actually bought firearms from one of our local dealers although it's unclear as to whether any were used in the Mandalay Bay shooting. The fact is nobody bats an eyelid around here. The attitudes are completely different and whether that's right or wrong is in the eye of the beholder. The best analogy I can use is when you carried a pocket knife as a kid. Everyone did it and there wasn't a scrap of outrage to be seen or heard of. Despite the proximity and the sheer number of firearms in this part of the world, where I can legally go and buy an AK for around $800 I don't feel particularly threatened by that. Not as much as I did walking around some of Manchester's suburbs at least.

[Meece 1,957]

Years ago old boys used to carry shotguns on the crossbar of their pushbike with a few rabbits and guns would be propped up in the corner of the bar and no one took a blind bit of notice. In contrast to modern times and gun attitudes one of the son in laws took some clients on a days simulated  driven game clay shoot. During the day some old man came on the line and started creating about these madman shooting and waving their guns about !!!  The captain blew the whistle and all shòting stopped immeadiatly.  The bloke was told to sling his hook as he was on private property. It was t long before  two unarmed plod turned up to enquire what was going on. The firearms responce unit was parked up down the road. Apparently the old guy had rung the police and complained that they were terrified for their lives. The shoot captain had a chat about the situation of the shoot and plod was happy shared a can of coke and all was well with the world and the shoot continued. sènse  prevailed. The old boy needed his arse kicking and his head stuffed down the bog. He was both a prat and a troublemaker. If he didn't like guns then he should have walked in the opposit direction. Son in law did give him a mouthful and called him an Oxygen stealing waste of skin! Amongst other things.

[ChrisJones 7,973]

On 02/10/2018 at 17:33, Meece said:

Years ago old boys used to carry shotguns on the crossbar of their pushbike with a few rabbits and guns would be propped up in the corner of the bar and no one took a blind bit of notice. In contrast to modern times and gun attitudes one of the son in laws took some clients on a days simulated  driven game clay shoot.

How long has it taken for that public perception to shift? A couple of decades? I know when I lived in England seeing a gun outside an approved setting was supposed to be viewed with suspicion and even fear.

Here in the US, they're attempting the same tactic but the populous resist that and seeing people open carrying firearms, especially here, is as normal as carrying a wallet or a phone.

If you did the same thing in California or New York you'd be at risk of a custodial sentence. There's definitely a well-funded propaganda war in play but with the very existence of the second amendment there is a legal framework in place that would take many decades to overturn and that's if it was even possible, to begin with. None of this will affect the illegal use of firearms and the only people affected are legal shooters.