pesky1972 5,682 Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 Absolutely fascinating and heartbreaking documentary about people suffering severe psychosis, hearing voices, hallucinating etc. A good if difficult watch which I'd really recommend - on BBC catch up now. The poor b*****ds had suffered abuse as kids, which was most likely the trigger for their mental health problems. I think we need a debate in this country as to what we do with people who hurt kids. For me we need full term mandatory life sentences and a return to capital punishment. If people understood the real impact of these crimes on the victims then I think there'd be a lot more in favour of change. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 Absolutely fascinating and heartbreaking documentary about people suffering severe psychosis, hearing voices, hallucinating etc. A good if difficult watch which I'd really recommend - on BBC catch up now. The poor b*****ds had suffered abuse as kids, which was most likely the trigger for their mental health problems. I think we need a debate in this country as to what we do with people who hurt kids. For me we need full term mandatory life sentences and a return to capital punishment. If people understood the real impact of these crimes on the victims then I think there'd be a lot more in favour of change. Totally agree with you on that Pesky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 12,038 Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 Absolutely fascinating and heartbreaking documentary about people suffering severe psychosis, hearing voices, hallucinating etc. A good if difficult watch which I'd really recommend - on BBC catch up now. The poor b*****ds had suffered abuse as kids, which was most likely the trigger for their mental health problems. I think we need a debate in this country as to what we do with people who hurt kids. For me we need full term mandatory life sentences and a return to capital punishment. If people understood the real impact of these crimes on the victims then I think there'd be a lot more in favour of change. Totally agree with you on that Pesky +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 Me to kill the b*****ds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,014 Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 Absolutely fascinating and heartbreaking documentary about people suffering severe psychosis, hearing voices, hallucinating etc. A good if difficult watch which I'd really recommend - on BBC catch up now. The poor b*****ds had suffered abuse as kids, which was most likely the trigger for their mental health problems. I think we need a debate in this country as to what we do with people who hurt kids. For me we need full term mandatory life sentences and a return to capital punishment. If people understood the real impact of these crimes on the victims then I think there'd be a lot more in favour of change. watched it, and didn't get that all being honest , they were people who bad experiences when young , and hadn't come to terms with it, and so had brought out a over imaginative imagination , and it gave out me to a form attention seeking , that's what it came over to me. Many time ive gone to bed and woke up seeing things , i even went to my doctor , and was told i had O/I/I like above , i've had it for years . i found the program embarassing to watch, with people playing up to the Camera . But something different watch for a change . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,754 Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 OLL? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,014 Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 OLL? O/I/I = over imaginative imagination , there you go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) Is that different to an over active active ?...........sorry couldnt resist Edited May 3, 2017 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 There ain't enough spent on mental health in this country, resulting in too few hospital beds and the wrong people having to deal with those who suffer from lunacy, such as the police and prison service. I think the closure of the asylums was seen as a cost cutting measure, rather than putting the money that would've been saved saved into adequate supervision and treatment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 There ain't enough spent on mental health in this country, resulting in too few hospital beds and the wrong people having to deal with those who suffer from lunacy, such as the police and prison service. I think the closure of the asylums was seen as a cost cutting measure, rather than putting the money that would've been saved saved into adequate supervision and treatment. Cheaper to prescribe 'medicine' that causes even more problems. Research suicides and murders by people on prozac Another typically Marxist catch phrase created 20 years ago 'Care in the Community' basically shut down all the care homes and institutions and set them free on the streets to fend for themselves Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Those famous Marxists Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Those famous Marxists Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan The ideology has invaded politics for the last century in all parties and in all aspects of life. Under Thatcher most grammar schools were closed down, hardly a Conservative or right wing thing to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,682 Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Absolutely fascinating and heartbreaking documentary about people suffering severe psychosis, hearing voices, hallucinating etc. A good if difficult watch which I'd really recommend - on BBC catch up now. The poor b*****ds had suffered abuse as kids, which was most likely the trigger for their mental health problems. I think we need a debate in this country as to what we do with people who hurt kids. For me we need full term mandatory life sentences and a return to capital punishment. If people understood the real impact of these crimes on the victims then I think there'd be a lot more in favour of change. watched it, and didn't get that all being honest , they were people who bad experiences when young , and hadn't come to terms with it, and so had brought out a over imaginative imagination , and it gave out me to a form attention seeking , that's what it came over to me. Many time ive gone to bed and woke up seeing things , i even went to my doctor , and was told i had O/I/I like above , i've had it for years . i found the program embarassing to watch, with people playing up to the Camera . But something different watch for a change ."Attention seeking" and "playing up for the camera"...? No wonder these people can't get the help that they need. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,682 Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 It was suggested that one of the victims had suffered 'peritraumatic dissociation', which appears to be an in-built and natural defence mechanism for the brain to detach itself from the reality of the severe trauma of abuse. This then appears to develop a more permanent dissociation with reality..., or psychosis. The cause of his years of torment and misery..., not to mention the years of expensive treatment and medication, can be traced to his abuse as a child. I know everyone and every situation is different, and not everyone who's mentally ill has been abused, or not everyone who's been abused will develop psychotic illness, but the film describes a pretty convincing link between the abuse and the illness. Maybe the point I'm trying to make is that I don't think its well understood just how damaging and lasting the abuse of children can be.., and that I feel the criminal justice system just doesn't get near to justice for the likes of these poor souls. It's time we started to purge our society of these animals. PS. I've taken a tablet now I'll be right in a minute? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,014 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 It was suggested that one of the victims had suffered 'peritraumatic dissociation', which appears to be an in-built and natural defence mechanism for the brain to detach itself from the reality of the severe trauma of abuse. This then appears to develop a more permanent dissociation with reality..., or psychosis. The cause of his years of torment and misery..., not to mention the years of expensive treatment and medication, can be traced to his abuse as a child. I know everyone and every situation is different, and not everyone who's mentally ill has been abused, or not everyone who's been abused will develop psychotic illness, but the film describes a pretty convincing link between the abuse and the illness. Maybe the point I'm trying to make is that I don't think its well understood just how damaging and lasting the abuse of children can be.., and that I feel the criminal justice system just doesn't get near to justice for the likes of these poor souls. It's time we started to purge our society of these animals. PS. I've taken a tablet now I'll be right in a minute regards being abused as child you are 100% they needs as much help as they can get, i feel very sorry in my old heart for people like. But like said on the above you can scare your self very easy the brain , can play havoc with you .I was bit of a problem as child , would never learn nothing , all ways getting trouble , i was caned few times , this was around 64 -68 i am old fart now 65 this year lol, like said i still see shapes or movement in my bed room , i jump out of bed and go for them, i am violent when scared and move the curtains go to the door etc, if frightens the shit out of my wife , because of my violence incase i hurt her , now ive been married 30 odd years and still the same .Doctor.s told me i hallucinate , because iam in my 2nd part of my sleep , in other words still as sleep , not sleep walking as iam part awake . like said anybody can scare them selves , few times ive been lamping by woods on me own just with dog, and i though i seen a shape or what ever, few birds have got up, you think fook me it was real, but its nothing unless it was a keeper /farmer etc, and if so they have nailed me lol, so it wasnt, just prob a animal i was looking for haha . No mate you can always scare your self even with norm type brain , not sure in my case though . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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