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THL will be up for "Best Comedy" in next years golden globes...... a bloody playground?

 

Maybe we should just start the THL version of the Darwin Awards "Golden Ball" goes to the biggest knob.

 

No wonder people don't bother posting half the time as the same ole trolling experts will be on.

 

??????

 

Back to my real life.

For someone who once said that you'd like to see this web-site banned you sure look at it a lot.

What you and your type have problem with forums like this compared to face book etc. is that when one comes on to an open forum you have to be prepared to put your money where your mouth is and be prepared for others opinions.

You and P3D now and again come on and like to ridicule the breeding of the black lines of terriers. You's nit pick and scrutinize quotes etc. to try and say they just another scatter bred mongeral the same as some other hotch potch types.

It kills you's that there actually are lads who have something to show for their years of hard work.

I don't pretend to be any sort of an expert or the only one who knows black terriers but I am very passionate about something that IMO is worth being passionate about.

Some day you might know how it feels.

That's why I always rise up and take the bait because f****d if I'll let someone with a half arsed opinion make stupid statements.

 

 

John Winch said that it was vanity that named the Pedigree Patterdale.

How right he was.

Reading your post says it all.

Every other strain is hodge podge EXCEPT your well bred type.

Listen to men like Mr Winch and stop making stupid statements.

There are a lot of great working strains that genuine men have bred for decades.

Because they do not have pedigree papers that does not mean they are bad workers.

 

I wont make much comment as you've put words in my mouth.

I rarely use the word Patterdale and don't call them pedigree terriers.

And I never said ALL OTHER types are mish mash.

 

 

Can't put words in your mouth, its too full already.

You have a biased view of the world, no problem if that's how you wish to live but don't force it on other people.

Remember

A narrow mind and a fat head invariably come on the same person

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Dont get involved in threads here much anymore,its gone to nasty for me,I've kept digging dogs a good while,but I never used the word Patterdale in my life,I always referred to them as black dogs,noth

If it wasn't for John which quite a few lads would have been locked up years ago . He helped the nwtf years ago as well as the fell & moorland. The man is an absolute gentleman who still in his t

People should be more concerned about how they work rather than breed names and colour

Could we get back to talking about Mr. John Winch.

He sounds like a proper gent with knowledge of Terriers going back to the 50's.

What a book he could write.

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Could we get back to talking about Mr. John Winch.

He sounds like a proper gent with knowledge of Terriers going back to the 50's.

What a book he could write.

I got a better one, lets stick your name, occupation, an ask about where you live and any other bollocks we feel need to be nosey about, or how about you just man up, say what you want to say, to who you want to say it to, without using somebody elses name as an excuse to say it. Anyybody with more than a few brain cells can see your nowt but a spineless mixer.

 

So lets have your name an job to start with??

 

 

John Winch and his occupation, his friendship with Plummer and the history of the Fell terrier was quoted in an article in CMW.

I said "who was this guy" to be saying that the "Patterdale Terrrier name" for the black dogs was a load of BS invented in the 70's.

Most knew it was a way of asking tongue in cheek because it is a controversial topic (all topics seem to be when it comes to breeding lines)

The statement was more powerful coming from a man like that because he was part of that history.

The usual argument that "You do not own a Black dog" or "you do not live in the Lake District" could not be used here.

I am guessing that most could see that it was a question to the type of breeders who say that the Patterdale is a dog line bred from the fell terriers of Buck/Breay.

This type of breeder would not breed a Red Fell type over a Smooth black bitch because they would loose the pedigree.(It did not seem to bother Buck/Breay)

If a person does not call them "Patterdale Terriers" or write pedigrees then the question was not aimed at them.

This an ongoing discussion among terriermen regarding the history of all terriers.

What went into them, how were they bred, I have one view, other people have another view.

I have no problem dsicussing any line of dogs, Black, Fell, White they all are interesting to me.

I am guessing that you could own a Patterdale by your response.

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I've met the said gentleman and a fair few others from the north who never call them patterdales , met many others that would not call them lakelands or fells , all this is immaterial to you p3d isn't it you just have to come on here to give us your knowledge , its about time you out grew it now , these lines of black red and choc terriers came from a mish mash of working types and breeds,since then they have been worked and breed line breed inbred until they have become a set type, i look forward to your next name droping lack of knowledge post

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THL will be up for "Best Comedy" in next years golden globes...... a bloody playground?

 

Maybe we should just start the THL version of the Darwin Awards "Golden Ball" goes to the biggest knob.

 

No wonder people don't bother posting half the time as the same ole trolling experts will be on.

 

??????

 

Back to my real life.

For someone who once said that you'd like to see this web-site banned you sure look at it a lot.

What you and your type have problem with forums like this compared to face book etc. is that when one comes on to an open forum you have to be prepared to put your money where your mouth is and be prepared for others opinions.

You and P3D now and again come on and like to ridicule the breeding of the black lines of terriers. You's nit pick and scrutinize quotes etc. to try and say they just another scatter bred mongeral the same as some other hotch potch types.

It kills you's that there actually are lads who have something to show for their years of hard work.

I don't pretend to be any sort of an expert or the only one who knows black terriers but I am very passionate about something that IMO is worth being passionate about.

Some day you might know how it feels.

That's why I always rise up and take the bait because f****d if I'll let someone with a half arsed opinion make stupid statements.

. " I DONT PRETEND TO BE ANY SORT OF EXPERT "

 

understatement of the decade lol :D

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THL will be up for "Best Comedy" in next years golden globes...... a bloody playground?

 

Maybe we should just start the THL version of the Darwin Awards "Golden Ball" goes to the biggest knob.

 

No wonder people don't bother posting half the time as the same ole trolling experts will be on.

 

??????

 

Back to my real life.

For someone who once said that you'd like to see this web-site banned you sure look at it a lot.

What you and your type have problem with forums like this compared to face book etc. is that when one comes on to an open forum you have to be prepared to put your money where your mouth is and be prepared for others opinions.

You and P3D now and again come on and like to ridicule the breeding of the black lines of terriers. You's nit pick and scrutinize quotes etc. to try and say they just another scatter bred mongeral the same as some other hotch potch types.

It kills you's that there actually are lads who have something to show for their years of hard work.

I don't pretend to be any sort of an expert or the only one who knows black terriers but I am very passionate about something that IMO is worth being passionate about.

Some day you might know how it feels.

That's why I always rise up and take the bait because f****d if I'll let someone with a half arsed opinion make stupid statements.

. " I DONT PRETEND TO BE ANY SORT OF EXPERT "

 

understatement of the decade lol :D

 

It's true, I don't "pretend" to be an expert.

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FFS PD3 what would you know? :-)

 

 

I wonder who Mr Winch was referencing about the men with ego's back then?

 

Fells, Fells, Fells...... except for the smooth black one's that Nuttal developed?? :-)

 

Below are fells to me.

 

 

 

 

Red hairy types or broken types = Fells

Black hairy types or broken types = Fells or Patterdale which would depend on your persuasion

Smooth Black Type = Patterdale or Fell which would depend on your persuasion.

Black & Tan hairy or broken types = Lakey

 

Or could it just be as simple as black dog, red dog, white dog as most are just strains and various mixes of some or all of the above.

 

First instance I remember of patterdales being referenced (documented) is when I was a young kid was my friend who I dig with today had a book of dogs of the world which had both red and black patterdales. Smooth types and possibly grizzle if I can remember rightly. I would love to see this book today to see where the author got his reference from?

 

Also a very interesting post by PD3 was the breeding chart from Nuttal where the name patterdale was used on the chart as the type/breed and interestingly not fell? and most people would consider Nuttals as patterdales. What does he call them as he was a very important man in the scheme of things amongst others?

 

 

 

Mr Welch a man of 83 who has been around terriers all his life from youth at the golden era of when terriers could work a variety of quarry legally, formed one of the longest standing terrier clubs to exist in G.B. is a barrister with quite a reputation for getting men acquitted for trumped up charges regarding terrier work and has met buck & breay many times has it wrong it seems.

Theres a man on here who lets on hes 83 and lived in the golden age when terriers could work a wide variety of quarry legally, and spends most his time doing his hunting typing it out on the THL has a family of pure bred patterdales sure!

what would John Welch Know.

Who's John Welch ????

Apologies for not explaining my question.

You've told us all about Mr John Winch and how much you personally know about him and then couldn't be bothered to even know his name.

I've a funny feeling the first time you heard of Mr Winch was when you read P3D first post.

 

Another thing I find funny is how you ,P3D and Corkman are always the ones questioning the breeding of black lines when none of ye keep them.

Even though ,Stopend, you did ask a couple of men who keep proper lines of black terriers for pups and they reclined.

So, you boys debate the topic of the black mongerals while keeping terriers yourselves that are very much a mish mash of types.

 

Do yourselves a favour and talk to the chaps who've had their lines of blacks, black fells, black lakelands or Patterdales for many generations and you might learn a little about the truth of the proper working terrier and it's owner.

That's the thing about me. I question everything in life which allows me to form my opinions.

 

I've owned, bred and worked blacks, reds, whites, brindles and quiet happily have a mish mash of whites which keep me and many others quite happy in Cork and wider afield and dug over plenty dogs from other men that have kept black dogs a lot longer than you. So I would say I have a healthy respect and interest for all types....... once they work. By me getting along with most people affords me the pleasure to speak with many such men which cannot be said for a lot of people. A good dog is a good dog no matter what colour.

 

Your last sentence says it all as usual and a very inward looking statement as if everything is about YOU??

 

Obviously yours is the only opinion that matters as you appear to have an opinion and expertise on just about everything. You act as if you are the only man in the world that has kept or keeping black dogs and you are the sole authority on black dogs or just about everything. Load of crap.

 

THL will be up for "Best Comedy" in next years golden globes...... a bloody playground?

 

Maybe we should just start the THL version of the Darwin Awards "Golden Ball" goes to the biggest knob.

 

No wonder people don't bother posting half the time as the same ole trolling experts will be on.

 

??????

 

Back to my real life.

For someone who once said that you'd like to see this web-site banned you sure look at it a lot.

What you and your type have problem with forums like this compared to face book etc. is that when one comes on to an open forum you have to be prepared to put your money where your mouth is and be prepared for others opinions.

You and P3D now and again come on and like to ridicule the breeding of the black lines of terriers. You's nit pick and scrutinize quotes etc. to try and say they just another scatter bred mongeral the same as some other hotch potch types.

It kills you's that there actually are lads who have something to show for their years of hard work.

I don't pretend to be any sort of an expert or the only one who knows black terriers but I am very passionate about something that IMO is worth being passionate about.

Some day you might know how it feels.

That's why I always rise up and take the bait because f****d if I'll let someone with a half arsed opinion make stupid statements.

Would yah go away yah clown

 

Read back over my two posts. First one describes imo what the various types of Fells look or could be classed as by many lads. No different really to the listing or entries in many a working terrier show. No mention of YOU.

The second post is in response to you dragging my name into matters in true keyboard warrior style in which I responded and in no way degraded fell terriers or bull influenced black smooth patterdales for that matter. But I thought I better provide a response this time around as fairies like you only get emboldened if ignored like the last time you try drag me down to your gutter level and slated my dogs which are "directly" off SB, JM, JA, BMC, JB, etc Cork dogs that I can trace the line back to 60's when Tommy started things off. 40 minute mish mash terriers that you have never seen? You will be popular in Cork you clown. The other throw away comment from you is that I nearly got terrierwork banned in Ireland? What a joke you really are and I will gladly open up Pandora's box and put you straight on that one anytime on the WWW and can back "everything" I say with facts something which isn't important to liars like you as personally I've had of your bull and bullying. You won't bully me boy.

 

As for me wanting THL banned. Not really it has its benefits, but when egomaniacs like you post photos of chinned dogs acting the hard man and then try to take the moral high ground belittling others for doing less it sickens me.

 

As for my use of THL. We joined the site roughly the same time. I've posted 237 times and you over 5,000 with your prolific self possessed authority on everything. I've met you and saw through you fairly quickly, not like many on here.

Cooney you have to be the biggest tool I've had the misfortune to have meet and the biggest langer I've met in the terrier game. So go on away and crawl under a stone or back on a barstool and treat your gout yah old mans arse.

 

For you, that was a short rant. I think the last one I had to endure you sent me and others was about 5 pages long and took you a week to write.

As for seeing right through me the first time you met me ? How come you were pleasant to me ?

You must be very two faced as you did the same to Stopend. You said he was a fool who needed gone.

But he's your buddy now.

 

I reckon you're not a very good judge of character.

 

 

Well the reason I had to waste my precious time before and now is that my character is important to me.

 

You make up so much bull that it took that much to counter and dismantle every pathetic argument. I will gladly write another hundred pages to show you up for what you really are. Until you learn to keep your fat mouth shut, but I doubt that if that is physically possible for you being thick.

 

You just keep waffling and trying to muddy the water dragging up the same old rubbish over and over and of course trying to drag as many others into matters always deflecting from the real problem - YOU.

 

Indeed I did have you sussed after the first time we met. But I am courteous to everyone I meet and give everyone the benefit of doubt, as some people need to grow on you. But I wasn't long before I witnessed your true colours and conniving ways fairly quickly, but nothing I couldn't handle. I hope you are not trying to insinuate that I am in some way afraid of you? Nothing could be further from reality.

 

You are the one that wanted stopend gone and the first thing you said to me like a broken record was those very words. It would have been more than disingenuous to boot out the man that got the ball rolling because you looked down upon him from your high (FAT) horse. I certainly didn't agree with everything that Stopend said or the way he went about certain things, but rather than being two faced I spoke directly to the man about my concerns and the concerns of others. He knows that fact. No secret there? Giving the benefit of doubt to people that are willing to listen is a great thing. The man has certainly proved himself to me and others and is a different person than the one you keep on harping back too. You just cant let it go can you? So yes I would call him one of my many friends. Nothing two faced about that and people that really know me certainly know I have no problem speaking my mind "directly" to "anyone".

 

Regards being a good judge of character. You reckon wrong. I am fairly spot on that way. You on the other hand are certainly not and because of your blinkered attitude cannot see the wood from the trees.

 

You sucked up to men which you thought important fairly sharpish and wouldn't listen to others that knew better as you think you are the man and know it all. Touch of a social climber about you. Just as well you got the boot as these men see the likes of you coming a mile a way and would have..... no if fact...... actually tried to shaft terriermen. But you were thankfully gone before that situation was ably managed.

 

Just goes to show how ego's blind some people.

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If terriers could read.

They would be laughing in there kennels.

And no doubt thinking what the feck are these men arguing about on Thl for.we want to get out and work.

No listen to a keyboard clicking away.

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Good dog bad dog black white or red the majority get pts the good ones get kept and become legends lol poor old dogs don't really get ta have a say where they end up but serve there owners well either way I don't know where black dogs started but ya only have ta look at some lines ta see they throw same type.

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FFS PD3 what would you know? :-)

 

 

I wonder who Mr Winch was referencing about the men with ego's back then?

 

Fells, Fells, Fells...... except for the smooth black one's that Nuttal developed?? :-)

 

Below are fells to me.

 

 

 

 

Red hairy types or broken types = Fells

Black hairy types or broken types = Fells or Patterdale which would depend on your persuasion

Smooth Black Type = Patterdale or Fell which would depend on your persuasion.

Black & Tan hairy or broken types = Lakey

 

Or could it just be as simple as black dog, red dog, white dog as most are just strains and various mixes of some or all of the above.

 

First instance I remember of patterdales being referenced (documented) is when I was a young kid was my friend who I dig with today had a book of dogs of the world which had both red and black patterdales. Smooth types and possibly grizzle if I can remember rightly. I would love to see this book today to see where the author got his reference from?

 

Also a very interesting post by PD3 was the breeding chart from Nuttal where the name patterdale was used on the chart as the type/breed and interestingly not fell? and most people would consider Nuttals as patterdales. What does he call them as he was a very important man in the scheme of things amongst others?

 

 

 

Mr Welch a man of 83 who has been around terriers all his life from youth at the golden era of when terriers could work a variety of quarry legally, formed one of the longest standing terrier clubs to exist in G.B. is a barrister with quite a reputation for getting men acquitted for trumped up charges regarding terrier work and has met buck & breay many times has it wrong it seems.

Theres a man on here who lets on hes 83 and lived in the golden age when terriers could work a wide variety of quarry legally, and spends most his time doing his hunting typing it out on the THL has a family of pure bred patterdales sure!

what would John Welch Know.

Who's John Welch ????

Apologies for not explaining my question.

You've told us all about Mr John Winch and how much you personally know about him and then couldn't be bothered to even know his name.

I've a funny feeling the first time you heard of Mr Winch was when you read P3D first post.

 

Another thing I find funny is how you ,P3D and Corkman are always the ones questioning the breeding of black lines when none of ye keep them.

Even though ,Stopend, you did ask a couple of men who keep proper lines of black terriers for pups and they reclined.

So, you boys debate the topic of the black mongerals while keeping terriers yourselves that are very much a mish mash of types.

 

Do yourselves a favour and talk to the chaps who've had their lines of blacks, black fells, black lakelands or Patterdales for many generations and you might learn a little about the truth of the proper working terrier and it's owner.

That's the thing about me. I question everything in life which allows me to form my opinions.

 

I've owned, bred and worked blacks, reds, whites, brindles and quiet happily have a mish mash of whites which keep me and many others quite happy in Cork and wider afield and dug over plenty dogs from other men that have kept black dogs a lot longer than you. So I would say I have a healthy respect and interest for all types....... once they work. By me getting along with most people affords me the pleasure to speak with many such men which cannot be said for a lot of people. A good dog is a good dog no matter what colour.

 

Your last sentence says it all as usual and a very inward looking statement as if everything is about YOU??

 

Obviously yours is the only opinion that matters as you appear to have an opinion and expertise on just about everything. You act as if you are the only man in the world that has kept or keeping black dogs and you are the sole authority on black dogs or just about everything. Load of crap.

 

THL will be up for "Best Comedy" in next years golden globes...... a bloody playground?

 

Maybe we should just start the THL version of the Darwin Awards "Golden Ball" goes to the biggest knob.

 

No wonder people don't bother posting half the time as the same ole trolling experts will be on.

 

??????

 

Back to my real life.

For someone who once said that you'd like to see this web-site banned you sure look at it a lot.

What you and your type have problem with forums like this compared to face book etc. is that when one comes on to an open forum you have to be prepared to put your money where your mouth is and be prepared for others opinions.

You and P3D now and again come on and like to ridicule the breeding of the black lines of terriers. You's nit pick and scrutinize quotes etc. to try and say they just another scatter bred mongeral the same as some other hotch potch types.

It kills you's that there actually are lads who have something to show for their years of hard work.

I don't pretend to be any sort of an expert or the only one who knows black terriers but I am very passionate about something that IMO is worth being passionate about.

Some day you might know how it feels.

That's why I always rise up and take the bait because f****d if I'll let someone with a half arsed opinion make stupid statements.

Would yah go away yah clown

 

Read back over my two posts. First one describes imo what the various types of Fells look or could be classed as by many lads. No different really to the listing or entries in many a working terrier show. No mention of YOU.

The second post is in response to you dragging my name into matters in true keyboard warrior style in which I responded and in no way degraded fell terriers or bull influenced black smooth patterdales for that matter. But I thought I better provide a response this time around as fairies like you only get emboldened if ignored like the last time you try drag me down to your gutter level and slated my dogs which are "directly" off SB, JM, JA, BMC, JB, etc Cork dogs that I can trace the line back to 60's when Tommy started things off. 40 minute mish mash terriers that you have never seen? You will be popular in Cork you clown. The other throw away comment from you is that I nearly got terrierwork banned in Ireland? What a joke you really are and I will gladly open up Pandora's box and put you straight on that one anytime on the WWW and can back "everything" I say with facts something which isn't important to liars like you as personally I've had of your bull and bullying. You won't bully me boy.

 

As for me wanting THL banned. Not really it has its benefits, but when egomaniacs like you post photos of chinned dogs acting the hard man and then try to take the moral high ground belittling others for doing less it sickens me.

 

As for my use of THL. We joined the site roughly the same time. I've posted 237 times and you over 5,000 with your prolific self possessed authority on everything. I've met you and saw through you fairly quickly, not like many on here.

Cooney you have to be the biggest tool I've had the misfortune to have meet and the biggest langer I've met in the terrier game. So go on away and crawl under a stone or back on a barstool and treat your gout yah old mans arse.

 

For you, that was a short rant. I think the last one I had to endure you sent me and others was about 5 pages long and took you a week to write.

As for seeing right through me the first time you met me ? How come you were pleasant to me ?

You must be very two faced as you did the same to Stopend. You said he was a fool who needed gone.

But he's your buddy now.

 

I reckon you're not a very good judge of character.

 

 

Well the reason I had to waste my precious time before and now is that my character is important to me.

 

You make up so much bull that it took that much to counter and dismantle every pathetic argument. I will gladly write another hundred pages to show you up for what you really are. Until you learn to keep your fat mouth shut, but I doubt that if that is physically possible for you being thick.

 

You just keep waffling and trying to muddy the water dragging up the same old rubbish over and over and of course trying to drag as many others into matters always deflecting from the real problem - YOU.

 

Indeed I did have you sussed after the first time we met. But I am courteous to everyone I meet and give everyone the benefit of doubt, as some people need to grow on you. But I wasn't long before I witnessed your true colours and conniving ways fairly quickly, but nothing I couldn't handle. I hope you are not trying to insinuate that I am in some way afraid of you? Nothing could be further from reality.

 

You are the one that wanted stopend gone and the first thing you said to me like a broken record was those very words. It would have been more than disingenuous to boot out the man that got the ball rolling because you looked down upon him from your high (FAT) horse. I certainly didn't agree with everything that Stopend said or the way he went about certain things, but rather than being two faced I spoke directly to the man about my concerns and the concerns of others. He knows that fact. No secret there? Giving the benefit of doubt to people that are willing to listen is a great thing. The man has certainly proved himself to me and others and is a different person than the one you keep on harping back too. You just cant let it go can you? So yes I would call him one of my many friends. Nothing two faced about that and people that really know me certainly know I have no problem speaking my mind "directly" to "anyone".

 

Regards being a good judge of character. You reckon wrong. I am fairly spot on that way. You on the other hand are certainly not and because of your blinkered attitude cannot see the wood from the trees.

 

You sucked up to men which you thought important fairly sharpish and wouldn't listen to others that knew better as you think you are the man and know it all. Touch of a social climber about you. Just as well you got the boot as these men see the likes of you coming a mile a way and would have..... no if fact...... actually tried to shaft terriermen. But you were thankfully gone before that situation was ably managed.

 

Just goes to show how ego's blind some people.

 

Thanks mate,

Your post didn't say much 'till that last paragraph and that paragraph ol' buddy spoke a thousand words.

Thanks again.

 

P.S. I was indeed the first to say we should get rid of Stopend. You and that two faced fellow who lives only a few miles from me agreed. I said I'd ask him to leave. You's were OK with that. I did and you's spineless things wouldn't back me up. You acted just like your terriers. CURS.

I had wanted him gone because so many terrier folk in Northern Ireland told me they'd only join if he was gone.

 

Has the I.W.T.F. got many members in Northern Ireland, considering that it is indeed a working terrier stronghold ?

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More deflection Cooney.

 

And you are certainly not my mate. You are a liability.

 

You don't have to feed my dogs or clean up their crap so don't worry your little head about them. They are doing just fine.

 

Funny thing is lads from Northern Ireland did join irrespective of any opposition they might have had including one of your friends.

 

And with man the in or out it didn't and doesn't affect things one bit. We get plenty support from the North. Fact. The fed goes from strength to strength after rocky start, but if you were left in I guarantee it would not have lasted 6 months like the previous failed attempt you were involved with.

 

I just told you I spoke directly to the man and matters were sorted. Nothing spineless about that. More crap.

 

First you said the fed wouldn't work. Then when you saw it was looking good jumped on board. Two days later put your hand up for the top spot like a good ole egomaniac. You started the sh*t stirring within a few days of being in - similar to way you act on here.Then started sucking hard on the so called big shots outside the fed, as you in your little head thought you were at the same level as them? These men were playing you for a fool that you are and we were warned not to trust them.

 

The fed was setup to provide a voice for its member Terrierman. As one of your mates said before you came along, the others hadn't exactly a great record! Yet you turned your back on your fellow terriermen and regurgitated the slander these men wanted you to help spread. As because you are a sucker for image and titles you acted like their bitch and started shafting all around you. You even tried telling lads a relation was against me until he heard you using his name against me and he rang you for a chat to put you straight.

 

One of these men you were falling in line with later tried to throw us all under a bus - fact and the other fella down my way couldn't distance himself quickly enough along with others after being asleep at the wheel for years. And you wonder why you got the push. Couldn't get rid of you fast enough! For a bunch of so called spineless ff we seem to get plenty support. Sure you would only have to go to Moate any year to see how well supported the fed is and the lads that run it. Oh, but your not really welcome. Everyone else all can't be wrong surely or do you know better than everyone?

 

P.S. Your old suck buddy got removed from his own org recently according to their website. Ain't karma a bitch. Goes to show I'm not a bad judge of character and your are simply a bitter small minded man on the outside looking in.

 

I could keep going with this lark all night. It's great craic

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