Rez 4,961 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 What a old diamond that man is. V'man, you've probably got this as ya screen saver 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 It's an absolute disgrace what the lords have done. Tebit is spot on but after years of Labour and the Lib Dems cramming the Lords full of liberals they effectively have set up a sleeper cell to restrain any right wing government we might get. Maybe we should have another election now, the Tories (who I don't trust) would wipe the floor with Labour and the Limp Dems, maybe UKIP could get some seats as well and the right would have absolute power especially if they did something to change how the Lords works... Would the US equivalent the senate work better? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David.evans 5,323 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Ditto Rez Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 11,256 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Never ever thought I would say this but I am warming to old Tebbit and he was bang on what he had the courage to say in the lords. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Cultural Marxist b*****ds hate the use of the word 'foreigner' 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,977 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 It's an absolute disgrace what the lords have done. Tebit is spot on but after years of Labour and the Lib Dems cramming the Lords full of liberals they effectively have set up a sleeper cell to restrain any right wing government we might get. Maybe we should have another election now, the Tories (who I don't trust) would wipe the floor with Labour and the Limp Dems, maybe UKIP could get some seats as well and the right would have absolute power especially if they did something to change how the Lords works... Would the US equivalent the senate work better? I kinda like the idea of a bicameral system but I can't help but feel it's redundant. The implementation of the Lords, and the Senate for that matter, was to ensure the wealthy were represented more strongly in the democratic system to stop the common folk damaging the country by being short sighted. If we elect the parliamentarians of the upper house, then how is that any different to just having a single house, unicameralism? There has to be some distinction I think, and with a good political reason to justify it. The justification to the Senate is good and relevant, it makes the voice of less populous states stronger but that wouldn't be the case in the UK. I just can't quite see a need for the upper house anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 It's an absolute disgrace what the lords have done. Tebit is spot on but after years of Labour and the Lib Dems cramming the Lords full of liberals they effectively have set up a sleeper cell to restrain any right wing government we might get. Maybe we should have another election now, the Tories (who I don't trust) would wipe the floor with Labour and the Limp Dems, maybe UKIP could get some seats as well and the right would have absolute power especially if they did something to change how the Lords works... Would the US equivalent the senate work better? I kinda like the idea of a bicameral system but I can't help but feel it's redundant. The implementation of the Lords, and the Senate for that matter, was to ensure the wealthy were represented more strongly in the democratic system to stop the common folk damaging the country by being short sighted. If we elect the parliamentarians of the upper house, then how is that any different to just having a single house, unicameralism? There has to be some distinction I think, and with a good political reason to justify it. The justification to the Senate is good and relevant, it makes the voice of less populous states stronger but that wouldn't be the case in the UK. I just can't quite see a need for the upper house anymore. I tend to agree with you, they've shot themselves in the foot yesterday and I think more people will start questioning their relevance and cost Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 51,821 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Old Norman is a bit of a legend in my book........he harps back to a time before the conservatives, lib Dems and Labour were all the same beast ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
villaman 9,982 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Definitely legend ,could do with a few more like him now 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David.evans 5,323 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Not afraid to say it how it is , Is that not correct Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottish lurcher 185 Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Cultural Marxist b*****ds hate the use of the word 'foreigner' I think we are all now opening eyes to the vast majory of folk ,now relies we are being treated like second class citizens buy our own contry and the eu . The House of Lords is waste of money no other country's use such a system and do great . I would get rid of the lot of them . Most prob have bissness interests in Europe or investments there ,that's why they have this blinkered view !! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,868 Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Cultural Marxist b*****ds hate the use of the word 'foreigner' I noticed that. Their reaction to the word foreigner chilled me to the core. It was like the word that could not be spoken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottish lurcher 185 Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Cultural Marxist b*****ds hate the use of the word 'foreigner'I noticed that. Their reaction to the word foreigner chilled me to the core. It was like the word that could not be spoken yes seems to be like the N word we can't use !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rez 4,961 Posted March 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Cultural Marxist b*****ds hate the use of the word 'foreigner'I noticed that. Their reaction to the word foreigner chilled me to the core. It was like the word that could not be spoken yes seems to be like the N word we can't use !! What's that then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,868 Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 People who anoy you? N*GGERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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